Ratting on benefit cheats

Sixer

krisskross wrote: »

As a taxpayer and citizen it IS my business if money is being handed out to cheats.

"In order for evil to flourish, all that is required is for good men to do nothing." From Edward Burke

Quoting Burke is a bit grandiose, don't you think?!

On this basis, do you check your neighbours' car tax discs in case they are defrauding the state? Do you call the police about the friend of a friend who does day trips to Calais and flogs fags? Do you report every pirate DVD seller you come across at car boot sales? Your own kids or friends for using bitorrent websites?

NOT rushing about reporting every infraction one sees does NOT equate to condoning crimes or other illegal acts.

What about grey area corporate tax evasion? HMRC is currently pursuing £15bn in unpaid corporate tax it feels it is owed. £5bn of that, it's pursuing through the courts. These figures knock benefit fraud into a cocked hat.

So many people seem utterly fixated on benefits and the people that claim them.

eskimo26

I find it so funny when people say there angry because the cheats are abusing the system while they are being honest. The cheats should be shopped in because its our money there stealing.

This presumes the system is fair. If you are being 'honest' then your a mug. Look at the end of the day the legal loopholes in this system are a joke compared to the pennies benefits scroungers take.

I have a friend who works various self employed and temp jobs who has legally set himself up as a company because it saves him a bucket load of tax in the long run.

My parents have an accountant that takes £1000 and saves them nearly 10 times that in tax through various legal avenues.

Then of course there are the MPs who despite the expenses scandal are still snorting our money up there noses through various legal means.(off shore accounts anyone?) :money:

Nothing about this system is 'fair' you just need to get as much as you legally can or your losing out. Simple as that. Benefit cheating is the dumbest and laziest way to abuse the system.

Benefits cheats are either very very stupid or have stalwart constitutions because I would personally collapse into a pathetic, shivering, anxious wreck at the thought of being caught before i'd spent a penny.

In fact i was claiming benefits I was legally entitled to recently and i nearly collapsed into a pathetic, shivering wreck!

Wow it seems like this very point exploded while i was editing my post.

krisskross

Sixer wrote: »

Quoting Burke is a bit grandiose, don't you think?!

I thought the quote fitted the thread.

So what would you do if you saw a neighbour walking (without any aids) 100 yards each way to the pub every night, saw him carrying heavy bags of shopping, heard him boasting that he has had a motobility car for 15 years without any checks ever having been made on his entitlement?

Would you simply consider him lucky and long may it continue?

I see the bankers, Royal Family etc are now in the debate. Why?The Government LENT money to SOME banks. All are probably going to make a future profit for the taxpayers.

The Royal family generate huge sums in tourism etc. I believe the last estimate was that they cost us 62p a YEAR each. So a Mars bar each roughly that we need to give up per year.

holidaysforme

Sixer wrote: »

Quoting Burke is a bit grandiose, don't you think?!

On this basis, do you check your neighbours' car tax discs in case they are defrauding the state? Do you call the police about the friend of a friend who does day trips to Calais and flogs fags? Do you report every pirate DVD seller you come across at car boot sales? Your own kids or friends for using bitorrent websites?

NOT rushing about reporting every infraction one sees does NOT equate to condoning crimes or other illegal acts.

What about grey area corporate tax evasion? HMRC is currently pursuing £15bn in unpaid corporate tax it feels it is owed. £5bn of that, it's pursuing through the courts. These figures knock benefit fraud into a cocked hat.

So many people seem utterly fixated on benefits and the people that claim them.

Excellent post:D

skylight

Queen or no Queen. I am NOT giving up a Mars bar a year for anyone!!

holidaysforme

krisskross wrote: »

I thought the quote fitted the thread.

So what would you do if you saw a neighbour walking (without any aids) 100 yards each way to the pub every night, saw him carrying heavy bags of shopping, heard him boasting that he has had a motobility car for 15 years without any checks ever having been made on his entitlement?

Would you simply consider him lucky and long may it continue?

I see the bankers, Royal Family etc are now in the debate. Why?The Government LENT money to SOME banks. All are probably going to make a future profit for the taxpayers.

The Royal family generate huge sums in tourism etc. I believe the last estimate was that they cost us 62p a YEAR each. So a Mars bar each roughly that we need to give up per year.

Bless your niaevity. A benefit basher and a royalist. It couldn't get more hilarious if it wasn't so pitiful
You'll be telling us the bnaks are doing us a favour next:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Stylehutz

holidaysforme wrote: »

So you'll be out on the streets protesting against the banks then,- and the billionare tax avoiders aided and abetted by this government??
How about the royal wedding. Now who can i report the Royal family to:j ,- biggest bunch of scroungers and !!!!!!!!!!s that ever lived:mad:

http://campaigns.dwp.gov.uk/campaigns/benefit-thieves/

As per earlier post -doubt whether you would get anywhere:D

holidaysforme

skylight wrote: »

Queen or no Queen. I am NOT giving up a Mars bar a year for anyone!!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

eskimo26

krisskross wrote: »

I thought the quote fitted the thread.

So what would you do if you saw a neighbour walking (without any aids) 100 yards each way to the pub every night, saw him carrying heavy bags of shopping, heard him boasting that he has had a motobility car for 15 years without any checks ever having been made on his entitlement?

Would you simply consider him lucky and long may it continue?

I see the bankers, Royal Family etc are now in the debate. Why?The Government LENT money to SOME banks. All are probably going to make a future profit for the taxpayers.

The Royal family generate huge sums in tourism etc. I believe the last estimate was that they cost us 62p a YEAR each. So a Mars bar each roughly that we need to give up per year.

I would pity him because it sounds like quite a sad life. Trust me the second i'm well enough to work i'll be fulfilling my dreams not scrounging off the Government to be a sad old drunk. Also his going to do as little as possible/stay home a lot more so as not to get caught, in sad way your neighbour has come to embody the very disability he is falsely claiming he has, and all the restrictions that come along with it.

The question is how unhappy must YOU (not you personally i'm just using it as a hypothetical) be to resent your neighbour such a dull and frankly pointless existence? And that's where the accusations of being spiteful etc. come into it whether right or wrong...

Stylehutz

krisskross wrote: »

The Royal family generate huge sums in tourism etc. I believe the last estimate was that they cost us 62p a YEAR each. So a Mars bar each roughly that we need to give up per year.

Not the point I would rather my 62p per year went to someone that needed it and not someone that didn't:eek:

As for generating huge sums in tourism each year -absolute Rubbish !!!!!. Paris generates twice as much money in tourism then London and everyone goes there to see their Royal Family Don't they ?:rotfl: