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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    No, what discourages businesses, is the lack of growth and commitment from the government in doing something credible and positive about it.

    Growth comes from business, not from Governments.
    I would guess you work in the public sector where money just appears like magic from this central pot, you appear to have no understanding that it needs to be earned at some point.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    It is the way milions of self employed and small business do it.
    I don't see many self-employed people writing HMRC and saying, "I went to a shop and bought a television for three hundred and sixteen pounds and thirty four pence, here is the sixty-three pounds and twenty-seven pence in VAT."

    How many schedule D tax payers don't fiddle their taxes?
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I believ the USA us emainly self assessment with a yearly return and massive penalties for fiddling.

    More or less correct, although employees can have withholding (although they choose how much to withhold).

    The IRS are !!!!!!!s though.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    I don't see many self-employed people writing HMRC and saying, "I went to a shop and bought a television for three hundred and sixteen pounds and thirty four pence, here is the sixty-three pounds and twenty-seven pence in VAT."

    How many schedule D tax payers don't fiddle their taxes?

    I am not saying it is wrong, but I truly believe that a business should be paid for the time and money involved in collecting this money. Possibly as a percentage of tax paid.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Growth comes from business, not from Governments

    You often come out with these little gems, don't you. I have n idea where you get them from, but still, carry on, it gives us all a bit of a laugh.

    I would guess you work in the public sector where money just appears like magic from this central pot, you appear to have no understanding that it needs to be earned at some point.

    Then you would be guessing very, very, very wrong.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    You often come out with these little gems, don't you. I have n idea where you get them from, but still, carry on, it gives us all a bit of a laugh.




    Then you would be guessing very, very, very wrong.

    So where does the money to pay for public services come from?
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I am not saying it is wrong, but I truly believe that a business should be paid for the time and money involved in collecting this money. Possibly as a percentage of tax paid.

    Interestingly when HMRC was trying to push company online filing a couple of years back, for smaller companies they're were offering a tax rebate for those who did file electronically. So there is a precedent.

    It'd be only for small businesses mind - can't see BP or Tesco pleading poverty on tax administration.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I am not saying it is wrong, but I truly believe that a business should be paid for the time and money involved in collecting this money. Possibly as a percentage of tax paid.

    Busiensses have always been allowed to make deductions based on the time they take in calculating taxes.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    So where does the money to pay for public services come from?
    Look, really, stop being silly.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Busiensses have always been allowed to make deductions based on the time they take in calculating taxes.

    Only by reducing profits.
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