TV on wall

CloudCuckooLand

What is it with people who make choices in their life, like having a big telly and having a child - spouting nonsense about safety being their primary concern - when if that was genuinely the case they would just go out and get a lighter/safer telly - but not content with that, they then expect, almost demand, that other people accommodate their self-imposed needs...?

OP, you put yourself in this position. You have options to get yourself out of it, that do not risk breach of contract.

And that do not add to the danger to your precious child.

Though the whole thread definitely has the whiff of someone bored, killing time...like I am ;-)

tyllwyd

When we had a small child and a tv on a stand, we ended up putting a coffee table in front of the TV stand so that they couldn't get close to it. Not ideal, but then a lot of things we do to keep toddlers from hurting themselves/destroying the furniture are not ideal!

lionelator

Lesson is be very careful in choosing your tenants. And word your contracts very very carefully.
One person owns the house, rents it out to someone else, that person wants to drill massive holes in a wall to mount a tv and who knows what will happen, and the OP glibly states, oh well, I'm only here for 6 months, worst case things go sour and I just carry on and find somewhere else. As much stick as landlords get, hes made a pretty reasonable statement here and his tenant is choosing to completely ignore it.
Obviously the definition of reasonable and unreasonable can be debated till the cows come home but I think if theres a conflict of opinion with regard to holes being put into a structure, the final say should go to the owner of the property.
Wall mounted TVs have been a recent fad, a big sturdy TV cabinet would take up space but has been safe and stable and used in homes for decades. The whole safety thing is a joke. OP wants to save on space, add in a little style, and is looking to justify her actions.
Ive lived in rented all over the place and never mounted a TV as I wouldnt want to damage the owners property. The same way I wouldnt change the gear knob on a rental car but I may do on my own car.
The majority here are siding with your landlord, which should say something given how reluctant people are to side with landlords generally.

Ju&Mel

Can't you use something like this??

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50133941

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30144733

Mazzawa

My turn!

Right, as a former landlord I know where your LL is coming from. You may say that you will repair any damage caused by the tv on the wall upon the end of your tenancy but what does the LL do if you just vanish? They then have to have a gap between the property turnaround which means lost income for them, plus council tax bills for the vacant period plus repair costs on top of that - if this is for a week it could cost them £100 - £200 or more. It is perfectly reasonable for your LL to refuse this as it is not unreasonable - you are suggesting damaging his property that they cannot be sure will be repaired.

Landlords get all types of tenants - I had tenants that were fantastic, left the place spotless, then I've had ones with great references that have trashed the place. If there was any sort of verbal agreement with the latter I'm pretty sure they wouldn't honour it. As a LL you have no idea who is in your property until they have left and you see what is left behind for you to fix.

I understand your frustrations, but until you own your own property I'm afraid you'll just have to do what the LL says.


Oh and also, if a large, heavy tv is fixed to the wall incorrectly, it can just fall off face first dragging a large chunk of plasterboard with it = injured person, broken tv, big hole in wall. Your LL could be thinking worst scenario and I know someone that that happened to (all three by the way!).

Pigletto

Old_Tug wrote: »

Well, this really is the main point.

I am expecting that putting it on the wall will actually be safer, because the cases I have read about have been floor based TVs that have been tipped over by children, rather than wall mounted ones that have fallen off.

If I got it done, I would get it mounted professionally.

I personally would think that was safer than having it on a stand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198026/Boy-2-dies-television-falls-wall-hits-head.html

http://www.rospa.com/news/releases/detail/default.aspx?id=819

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/01/a-wall-mounted-tv-is-a-safe-tv/

Some information on accidents involving flat screen tvs including those that are wall mounted and safety advice.

My landlord won't let anything be put on the walls including pictures.

IronWolf

If you put it up anyway you are in breach of the contract, as it clearly states you cannot do anything without the landlords permission. If you want to challenge his "reasonable" conclusion you have to do that before you put it up, and are you really going to go to court over a wall mounted tv?

marleyboy

Old_Tug wrote: »

So, yes, of course he could show that I have mounted it without permission, but wouldn't he also need to show that he didn't withhold that permissions unreasonably?

Unfortunately NOT, his refusal to allow you to wall mount the television has its reasons. As far as he is concerned, thats enough.

You might find them unreasonable, but he does not, as the owner of the property he is perfectly entitled to refuse your request and use H&S guidelines or just about anything as his reason.

Old_Tug

Pigletto wrote: »

Some information on accidents involving flat screen tvs including those that are wall mounted and safety advice.

My landlord won't let anything be put on the walls including pictures.

Thanks for those links (sorry I am still too new to be able to include them in the response).

My reading of them is that you should either have it professionally wall mounted, or that you should have it floor mounted with a tether attached to the wall. Obviously, either way, it involves some fixing to the wall.

I will send these links to the landlord.

Based upon this I will definitely be attaching it to the wall (as long as a professional installer tells me that the wall is suitable), but I will try to see if I can get the landlord's agreement first.

Gwhiz

My god is this still going!

OP...really, you've asked and he said no. What part of that do you not understand?

Why not find an alternative and move on? You are making a mountain out of a very small molehill.

Personally I cannot understand why the stand that the TV came with is not fit for purpose. Especially on top of a TV unit!