TV on wall

tattycath

Old_Tug wrote: »

Thanks. Again, I appreciate your opinion.

However, I am inclined to think that it would be more hassle for him to challenge me on this than the other way around.

Is it really worth his while taking me to court to evict me just because there are a few holes in the wall (which won't disappear upon eviction) and which he can easily get repaired at my expense (be it via the deposit or otherwise)?

Let's turn it on its head-do you think your actions (of ignoring your LL and wall mounting your tv anyway) are worth being being taken to court over?

lucylucky

He may well choose to take you to court, I have no idea.

Is it worth your hassle.

You knew the size of the room before you rented you knew the size of the TV you knew the issues but are potentially choosing to ignore them and circumvent the rules.

Why?

clutton_2

""From his point of view, the worst that will happen is that there are some holes"

the worst that can happen is that it falls off the wall and injures your child - or worse - a lawyer would make that injury the LL's fault by saying that he should not have given his permission to wall mount such a heavy object....

you really dont get this do you..... listen.... please


you want to screw into a wall (of unknown construction) a TV support weighing more than 55lbs and you have a small child ........ ??

buy a smaller televison .... and stop considering putting your child's life at risk

incidentally YOU have a 50% responsibility for health and safety in the property along with your landlord and if you installed a badly fitted support for the television - worst case scenario - you could be prosecuted as well as the landlord......

i know this sounds melodramatic.. but old walls simply wont take the weight

mostlycheerful

clutton wrote: »

""From his point of view, the worst that will happen is that there are some holes"

the worst that can happen is that it falls off the wall and injures your child - or worse - a lawyer would make that injury the LL's fault by saying that he should not have given his permission to wall mount such a heavy object....

you really dont get this do you..... listen.... please


you want to screw into a wall (of unknown construction) a TV support weighing more than 55lbs and you have a small child ........ ??

buy a smaller televison .... and stop considering putting your child's life at risk

incidentally YOU have a 50% responsibility for health and safety in the property along with your landlord and if you installed a badly fitted support for the television - worst case scenario - you could be prosecuted as well as the landlord......

i know this sounds melodramatic.. but old walls simply wont take the weight

Yes, well said, there have been two examples in the last few months in UK media of kids being crushed to death by big tellies falling off walls or stands so it really is a serious issue. And those are just the two that made it into the national media so there's probably dozens of injuries that weren't actually fatal that don't get reported. So, yes, err on the side of caution with something like this, don't take any chances otherwise it could be awful

ps, by the way, I'm not following you around, clutton, this just happened to be the next one at the top that caught my attention, then I read your sensible advice and remembered those recent reports and realised that my two penn'orth is probably worth also chipping in here.

Old_Tug

lucylucky wrote: »

He may well choose to take you to court, I have no idea.

Is it worth your hassle.

You knew the size of the room before you rented you knew the size of the TV you knew the issues but are potentially choosing to ignore them and circumvent the rules.

Why?

Yes I did. But I also read the contract that says that permission will not be withheld unreasonably, which I consider it is being (at least if the reasoning is simply that it won't look quite the same).

Old_Tug

mostlycheerful wrote: »

Yes, well said, there have been two examples in the last few months in UK media of kids being crushed to death by big tellies falling off walls so it really is a serious issue.

Well, this really is the main point.

I am expecting that putting it on the wall will actually be safer, because the cases I have read about have been floor based TVs that have been tipped over by children, rather than wall mounted ones that have fallen off.

If I got it done, I would get it mounted professionally.

I personally would think that was safer than having it on a stand.

tattycath

Old_Tug wrote: »

Yes I did. But I also read the contract that says that permission will not be withheld unreasonably, which I consider it is being (at least if the reasoning is simply that it won't look quite the same).

Ok, so let's say he changes his mind and the tv falls off and badly injures your child. You can't overvalue the health and wellbeing of a child. Do the sensible thing-for the wellbeing of your child if nothing else

tattycath

Old_Tug wrote: »

Well, this really is the main point.

I am expecting that putting it on the wall will actually be safer, because the cases I have read about have been floor based TVs that have been tipped over by children, rather than wall mounted ones that have fallen off.

If I got it done, I would get it mounted professionally.

I personally would think that was safer than having it on a stand.

so look into getting a floor standing cantilever stand. TV can be mounted onto it higher up than a normal stand and it's not going to fall off the wall. I'm going to research their stability and am seriously contemplating getting one for our house

Old_Tug

tattycath wrote: »

so look into getting a floor standing cantilever stand. TV can be mounted onto it higher up than a normal stand and it's not going to fall off the wall. I'm going to research their stability and am seriously contemplating getting one for our house

Well, I'd appreciate any info you get on their stability.

Certainly my overriding concern here is to go for the safest option.

If that is one of these cantilever stands, then so be it.

I have had a quick Google, and seen some pictures, but I can't really see what makes them a "cantilever" stand and also can't really judge how stable they are.

mostlycheerful

Old_Tug wrote: »

Well, this really is the main point.

I am expecting that putting it on the wall will actually be safer, because the cases I have read about have been floor based TVs that have been tipped over by children, rather than wall mounted ones that have fallen off.

If I got it done, I would get it mounted professionally.

I personally would think that was safer than having it on a stand.

Well, yes, perhaps it might be safer on the wall but as clutton points out, a lot of walls are not likely to necessarily be able to take 55lbs of weight. And if it does fail you won't necessarily get any advance warning, it could just suddenly come away at any time.

Ok, if you really want to do this despite these issues then perhaps the next step is to broach the subject again with landlord then it's up to you how far you push the point. However, of course, as I expect you're aware, if you push the point too far then you may well just get resistance and possibly a bad reaction back such as being asked to find somewhere else to live. Tricky.

Is there any way that you could secure it to a stand such that it's very hard to pull it over? Would that be a usable solution for you? Or maybe put it on a lower item of furniture with some sort of rim or obstruction that it can't be pulled over? As you can see, I'm clutching at straws here.

Good luck with whatever you decide.