why are people still driving too fast?

jase1

foofi22 wrote: »

Come on please, how many of the 'victims' are obeying the 2-second rule?

Me for one. I watch the traffic on the inside lane *like a hawk* these days for signs of people pulling out in front of me without indicating. They are a cancer on the A1.

Should lorries be banished for failing to get to the prevailing speed of the Middle Lane Owners Club? And 'bad driving of the highest order' give me a break.

The ones who pull out at the last second without indicating? Most definitely. The difference being that the lorries that do this are vanishingly rare -- the cars pootling at 55 do it all the bleeding time.

I will not calm down where these dangerous drivers are concerned. I do not care who they are, I would happily rip their bl**dy heads off with my bare hands.

I drive on the motorway by the book -- and that includes not being a member of the middle-lane owners club (yes I saw that particular implication thankyou very much). I will not accept that the dangerous drivers are those who go too fast, because the bulk of them simply aren't the problem.

I had to feel sorry for the poor sap in a 52-plate Golf who was ahead of me on the A693 this evening. Within 30 seconds he was nearly the victim of bad drivers, twice. Once when someone decided to slam on the brakes from 45 down to 15, then indicated and turned right, when there was a chevron-slip to his right just waiting to be used, then seconds later as he is getting back up to speed someone pulled out in front of him with well under 50m to spare.

The stupid thing is that, with 2 seconds having been left for them to file in, they don't utilise the space available. If they could be bothered to indicate in good time, I'd happily let them in. But no, they're not watching the road, they clearly can't be bothered, they just think "car in front go too slow, road immediately to my right vacant, pull out". Not good enough. Not nearly good enough.

And of course they'll go home and moan on web forums about people going too fast.

The "highest order" of bad drivers are those who don't think, don't anticipate, and don't observe. They are the drivers who cause the bulk of accidents, rather than those who go too slow, or too fast.

thescouselander

hubert_cumberdale wrote: »

it probably was my fault but when you cant see them anyway

but my question really was are they allowed on the road with no lights

i thought vehicles should have lights

I always thought they were supposed to have lights but that doesn't mean the rider will have the sense to use them. Sounds like there was at least some contributory negligence on their part.

Gene_Hunt_2

jase1 wrote: »

Me for one. I watch the traffic on the inside lane *like a hawk* these days for signs of people pulling out in front of me without indicating. They are a cancer on the A1.

Why is the traffic in lane 1 such a problem?

That's the lane you should be using.;)

mikey72

jase1 wrote: »

I will not calm down where these dangerous drivers are concerned. I do not care who they are, I would happily rip their bl**dy heads off with my bare hands.

I drive on the motorway by the book -- and that includes not being a member of the middle-lane owners club (yes I saw that particular implication thankyou very much). I will not accept that the dangerous drivers are those who go too fast, because the bulk of them simply aren't the problem.

Must be a different book to the one I read then.

foofi22

jase1 wrote: »

Me for one. I watch the traffic on the inside lane *like a hawk* these days for signs of people pulling out in front of me without indicating. They are a cancer on the A1.

Like I said, Middle Lane Owners Club. :beer:

tomstickland

Gene_Hunt wrote: »

Why is the traffic in lane 1 such a problem?

That's the lane you should be using.;)

Unless it's a long line of slow moving vehicles in the left hand lane so poster is in middle lane overtaking.
Pulling out without indidicating seems to be becoming more prevalent.

optimus_primera

tomstickland wrote: »

Unless it's a long line of slow moving vehicles in the left hand lane so poster is in middle lane overtaking.
Pulling out without indidicating seems to be becoming more prevalent.

Must agree there.
Lack of indicating, esp on roundabouts, really does my head in.

jase1

foofi22 wrote: »

Like I said, Middle Lane Owners Club. :beer:

Rubbish.

I travel at 70mph wherever possible.

If there is a stream of traffic up ahead on the inside, I will overtake them. It is actually possible to look ahead, you know, much as that will surprise many "slow, safe" drivers.

The MLOC is actually one of my main pet hates.

If there are no more cars to overtake, I immediately pull back into the inside lane.

These guys are in a convoy in the inside lane. Indeed the main culprits I am referring to are generally "slipstreaming" the lorries. In other words, tailgating.

optimus_primera

I avoid the inner lanes ...... Outside lane club me ........(apart from when the speed limiter, aka swmbo,is sat in the car ) lol

jase1

mikey72 wrote: »

Must be a different book to the one I read then.

(1) When I am not driving, and am thinking about these morons, I am hardly driving by the book or otherwise. So the use of the first paragraph is an irrelevance. Whilst driving, I shrug it off, and adapt my driving patterns to suit. That does not mean that I have to like them.

(2) Acknowledging that there is a sliding scale of bad driving, in which the speeders are not at the very top, does not in any way imply that I join the speeders.