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  • Flyboy152 wrote: »
    How did these accidents occur and why were they attributed to him?

    Like many people, many of them "old codgers", he lacked spacial awareness and peripheral vision along with the inability to judge the true speed of others relative to his speed. Not all to extreme all the time but his experience compensated somewhat. We've seen some people like this express opinions on this thread; my father too thought himself a good driver.

    He wasn't confident at speed like many people but he drove where he wanted, rather than realising his limitations and driving within them.

    Only this morning an old biddy in her motability chariot pulled out, failed to turn the wheel sufficiently as she cornered, thus encroaching into my lane, largely I suspect because she was unable to judge my speed, how fast I would reach her position or whether her actions would likely cause an accident. Had I needed to swerve, I could have had an accident elsewhere which would have been largely down to her, though she would have driven on at 20mph thinking she was a perfectly safe driver !

    People think they have a right to drive. That is wrong but people who should be banned will not accept it.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Like many people, many of them "old codgers", he lacked spacial awareness and peripheral vision along with the inability to judge the true speed of others relative to his speed. Not all to extreme all the time but his experience compensated somewhat. We've seen some people like this express opinions on this thread; my father too thought himself a good driver.

    He wasn't confident at speed like many people but he drove where he wanted, rather than realising his limitations and driving within them.

    Only this morning an old biddy in her motability chariot pulled out, failed to turn the wheel sufficiently as she cornered, thus encroaching into my lane, largely I suspect because she was unable to judge my speed, how fast I would reach her position or whether her actions would likely cause an accident. Had I needed to swerve, I could have had an accident elsewhere which would have been largely down to her, though she would have driven on at 20mph thinking she was a perfectly safe driver !

    People think they have a right to drive. That is wrong but people who should be banned will not accept it.

    So no accidents at all in reality for the "old codger", sorry, your father?

    And the "old biddy" was also no where near you, and you didn't need to avoid her at all?
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    Chaos this morning on the way to work, "old codger" doing 30 mph on the dual carriageway in his Nissan Micra....... I wish id turned the camera round and caught him, because he was literally leaning around the steering wheel (between the wheel and the drivers window) with his head up against the windscreen, squinting as if he couldn't see a damn thing!!!!
    It's a bit different to to above comments though, as I think this guy should not have been driving at all!
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Like many people, many of them "old codgers", he lacked spacial awareness and peripheral vision along with the inability to judge the true speed of others relative to his speed. Not all to extreme all the time but his experience compensated somewhat. We've seen some people like this express opinions on this thread; my father too thought himself a good driver.

    He wasn't confident at speed like many people but he drove where he wanted, rather than realising his limitations and driving within them.

    Only this morning an old biddy in her motability chariot pulled out, failed to turn the wheel sufficiently as she cornered, thus encroaching into my lane, largely I suspect because she was unable to judge my speed, how fast I would reach her position or whether her actions would likely cause an accident. Had I needed to swerve, I could have had an accident elsewhere which would have been largely down to her, though she would have driven on at 20mph thinking she was a perfectly safe driver !

    People think they have a right to drive. That is wrong but people who should be banned will not accept it.
    But he was always an "old codger," was he? How did the accidents occur when he was younger?
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    Chaos this morning on the way to work, "old codger" doing 30 mph on the dual carriageway in his Nissan Micra....... I wish id turned the camera round and caught him, because he was literally leaning around the steering wheel (between the wheel and the drivers window) with his head up against the windscreen, squinting as if he couldn't see a damn thing!!!!
    It's a bit different to to above comments though, as I think this guy should not have been driving at all!
    Based on that description, I'd totally agree with you. What I find hard to comprehend is the ones who sit with the steering wheel pressed up against their noses, with their chests and abdomens rubbing on the wheel.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Not likely on a driving test.

    Er, wrong. NSL dual carriageways are included on most test routes.
  • Gordon_Hose
    Gordon_Hose Posts: 6,259 Forumite
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    triticale wrote: »
    Er, wrong. NSL dual carriageways are included on most test routes.

    That must be a new thing, because when I passed my test in 1996 I didn't go on any NSL roads.
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Based on that description, I'd totally agree with you. What I find hard to comprehend is the ones who sit with the steering wheel pressed up against their noses, with their chests and abdomens rubbing on the wheel.

    They tend to be the one's who lack confidence, but also a disproportionate number of women do this.... For no apparent reason.

    I call it the kangaroo position. Some liken it to a preying mantis.....

    In an accident they get a face and chest full of elbows and forearms (due to the airbag).... In mild to heavy collisions, serious injury or death is highly likely.
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    triticale wrote: »
    Er, wrong. NSL dual carriageways are included on most test routes.
    After researching this, I must agree that it appears since I passed my test (not going into how long ago ;) ), things have changed somewhat. :)
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    That must be a new thing, because when I passed my test in 1996 I didn't go on any NSL roads.
    Sorry Gordon, I was wrong as well.

    http://www.ukadi.co.uk/2010/03/dual-carriageways-on-test.html
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
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