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  • zenseeker
    zenseeker Posts: 4,551 Forumite
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    Uncertain, I'm not quite sure why you are being contradictory to someone who is giving the exact same information as you.

    UK mail, sent standard or Recorded Delivery, is compensated up to a maximum of £41.00 (which is the 100x 1st class you are talking about). Anything worth over £41 should be sent by Special Delivery, or have extra insurance added, which is why jaminewhiskers is pointing out that the incorrect service was used.
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  • WelshPaul
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    edited 17 January 2011 at 1:43PM
    shellsuit wrote: »
    What do you suggest if the item is lost in the system? Sue Royal Mail?

    Not at all, things do get lost, it may be so in this case.

    My point being which you do not seem to accept is that if there is proof of delivery then a crime has been committed by either the buyer or a staff member in this case royal mail. Either of those options result in a crime being committed if non receipt of item is claimed.

    By using Royal Mail's service you have to abide by their terms of service, they do cover you in the event of loss providing you follow those terms of service which i don't think the op did by sending the goods by the postal service they used.

    Recorded Delivery is supposed to and does sometimes show delivery and a signature, it is supposed to by default but is so unreliable i would not use it, as for the signature thing that is up to the police and court to determine. Finally yes the police do actually look into these matters i worked for a courier company once and on more than one occasion staff were interviewed and one prosecuted over faking signatures/deliveries. (Stolen microwave ;) )

    Small claims is not decided on 100% proof but probability. ;)
  • jockettuk
    jockettuk Posts: 5,809 Forumite
    could be this still in the sytem.. i posted a birthday card early november it go to my frien 80 miles away last week so still hope yet?
    Those we love don't go away,They walk beside us every day,Unseen, unheard, but always near,
    Still loved, still missed and very dear
    Our thoughts are ever with you,Though you have passed away.And those who loved you dearly,
    Are thinking of you today.
  • Azari
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    shellsuit wrote: »
    It's not over the top to suggest the Police and small claims court for something that hasn't been delivered yet?

    I think most people reading the police/court suggestion had the intelligence to realise that that was a suggestion as to what to do if it became clear that RM had proof of delivery since that was explicitly what it said.

    If they have and a the buyer has claimed non delivery either the buyer is lying, the postie forged the signature or it was delivered to someone else who forged the signature. All of these are crimes.
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  • mobile48
    mobile48 Posts: 745 Forumite
    edited 17 January 2011 at 1:59PM
    Azari wrote: »
    I think most people reading the police/court suggestion had the intelligence to realise that that was a suggestion as to what to do if it became clear that RM had proof of delivery since that was explicitly what it said.

    If they have and a the buyer has claimed non delivery either the buyer is lying, the postie forged the signature or it was delivered to someone else who forged the signature. All of these are crimes.

    Out of interest is it a crime for someone else in the household to sign for item not addressed to them? Also is it a crime to sign for something if your were unaware it was not for you - I only spotted this at the very last minute a couple of weeks ago and was just about to sign how lucky was that (not RM but another courier).
  • shellsuit
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    mobile48 wrote: »
    Out of interest is it a crime for someone else in the household to sign for item not addressed to them? Also is it a crime to sign for something if your were unaware it was not for you.

    Just what I was going to say.
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  • WelshPaul
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    mobile48 wrote: »
    Out of interest is it a crime for someone else in the household to sign for item not addressed to them? Also is it a crime to sign for something if your were unaware it was not for you - I only spotted this at the very last minute a couple of weeks ago and was just about to sign how lucky was that (not RM but another courier).

    It is if you keep the item yes, it is called theft! ;)
  • custardy
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    mralexmac wrote: »
    But I was totally unaware the £41 was the benchmark figure. This is stupid, as the cost of a first class stamp changes. Nobody told me this when I posted the item...

    which is why the figure always changes
    its 100 times the cost of a 1st class stamp.
    now did you think your 75p for recorded gave you unlimited cover?
  • Azari
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    mobile48 wrote: »
    Out of interest is it a crime for someone else in the household to sign for item not addressed to them?

    No.

    Providing you sign your own name and hand over the item.
    Also is it a crime to sign for something if your were unaware it was not for you - I only spotted this at the very last minute a couple of weeks ago and was just about to sign how lucky was that (not RM but another courier).

    No, because you do not have mens rae.
    shellsuit wrote: »
    Just what I was going to say.
    See answer one, above. :D
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  • Poppycat
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    It is not fraud you have no prove of that

    It may well have been lost, unfortunately as others said you should have sued special delivery not recorded, goods are treated differently with Royal Mail
    mralexmac wrote: »
    There could well be evidence of fraud. If this item is never actually being properly tracked, then the buyer could well just be saying they have not received it....?
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