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Disgusted at ebay/paypal/buyer...

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  • Azari
    Azari Posts: 4,317 Forumite
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    shellsuit wrote: »
    Don't you think you're going a bit OTT?

    Why?

    It's because people just don't bother when they are scammed that scammers continue to operate freely.

    Having said that, it's unlikely that the OP could do much in this case because s/he would be unable to prove whether there had been a crime and if so by whom had committed.
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  • shellsuit wrote: »
    Don't you think you're going a bit OTT? :cool:

    Not at all, it may be totally innocent but it may be a scam.

    Royal Mail may have a signature on paper that proves delivery but it may just be a case of not being uploaded to the site.

    If this evidence exists then you have a case against the buyer, reporting it to the police will help your small claims case! ;)
  • Crowqueen
    Crowqueen Posts: 5,726 Forumite
    edited 17 January 2011 at 12:12PM
    The buyer is probably just as upset as you are at not receiving what they paid for.

    You cannot prove that they have received it. An expensive item will go walkies in the post if you don't do your own research and send it by an insured service.

    You MUST send valuable electronic items (phones, iPods etc) by Special Delivery, even if you have to pay out of your own pocket to do so. It's always better to pay slightly extra to ensure both the buyer gets their item and to safeguard your interest in the bulk of the £99 they have paid you. Otherwise you have to give it back. Skimping on delivery charges means that this kind of thing is a big risk and one that I would personally as a seller not be happy to take.
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  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite
    edited 17 January 2011 at 12:13PM
    mralexmac wrote: »
    There could well be evidence of fraud. If this item is never actually being properly tracked, then the buyer could well just be saying they have not received it....?

    Unless RM come up with proof of delivery you have no chance of claiming it has been delivered. If you get this PayPal will put the money back in your account. If you don't you will have to pay them otherwise they will sue or send debt collectors round!

    Make a claim with Royal Mail for £41 towards your losses. Sadly the other £60 is the cost of a lesson.

    Sorry.
  • have you actually checked the tracking with RM on the website, what does it say?
  • have you actually checked the tracking with RM on the website, what does it say?

    From the op:
    The tracking number states that the item is 'still in the delivery network'.
  • shellsuit
    shellsuit Posts: 24,749 Forumite
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    Azari wrote: »
    Why?

    It's because people just don't bother when they are scammed that scammers continue to operate freely.

    Having said that, it's unlikely that the OP could do much in this case because s/he would be unable to prove whether there had been a crime and if so by whom had committed.

    Where has anyone been scammed here?!
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  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite
    WelshPaul wrote: »
    Not at all, it may be totally innocent but it may be a scam.

    Royal Mail may have a signature on paper that proves delivery but it may just be a case of not being uploaded to the site.

    If this evidence exists then you have a case against the buyer, reporting it to the police will help your small claims case! ;)

    If RM come up with a signature PayPal will put the money back in his account so there is no need for a small claim.

    If this happens then by all means report the buyer to the police as it is indeed fraud. Don't expect huge resources to be devoted to the case though!
  • WelshPaul
    WelshPaul Posts: 593 Forumite
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    edited 17 January 2011 at 12:21PM
    Uncertain wrote: »
    If RM come up with a signature PayPal will put the money back in his account so there is no need for a small claim.

    Only if the signature is visible online?

    Small claims should be a last resort, the op made the mistake of advertising a high end product with a silly postal option which in my opinion would attract the scammers.

    Good luck with whatever you choose to do, i would still report the incident to the police if you get proof and paypal refund as the buyer would have still committed an offence of fraud. (not that the police would care)
  • jabdc5
    jabdc5 Posts: 153 Forumite
    Uncertain wrote: »

    Make a claim with Royal Mail for £41 towards your losses. Sadly the other £60 is the cost of a lesson.

    Sorry.


    Royal Mail won't pay the £41 either out as the item wasn't sent by the correct method
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