DOG FLEAS - merged

west_is_best

How is the little one today love???

suki1964

shellplod wrote: »

Thats two my vet never recommended. Maybe a change in vet would be more appropriate. Looks to me as if he only recommends whatever the rep's are giving him the most of for less........Frontline is all he ever mentions and unfortunately for me, its never really worked that well, only on the cat. I'll keep them on my list of things to buy should the others not work. Thanks xx

Indorex you use along side any treatment you are using on the animal, indorex treats the house which is playing host to all the larvae just waiting to hatch into fleas and start the whole circle again.

If your animals are bringing in fleas you have to treat the house. Indorex is a once a year spray which I incorporate into my spring clean and one tin will do a small house for two years

marshmallow79

suki1964 wrote: »

Indorex you use along side any treatment you are using on the animal, indorex treats the house which is playing host to all the larvae just waiting to hatch into fleas and start the whole circle again.

If your animals are bringing in fleas you have to treat the house. Indorex is a once a year spray which I incorporate into my spring clean and one tin will do a small house for two years

Do you know a good place to get that suki? The one I'm using at the moment just isn't doing the job (think someone introduced these fleas to radiation or something!:D).

suki1964

marshmallow79 wrote: »

Do you know a good place to get that suki? The one I'm using at the moment just isn't doing the job (think someone introduced these fleas to radiation or something!:D).

Your Vets should sell it, if not Ive seen it in Boots (the bigger branches) and loads of online places

wuno

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

I've heard reports that Frontline isn't as effective as it used to be due to being used so much the fleas are developing immunity, maybe one of the resident vets can confirm this, so perhaps try Stronghold or one of the newer ones for the dog

Cat fleas resistant to cyclodiene insecticides due to the Rdl mutation are also cross-resistant to fipronil (the active killing ingredient of Frontline). Whilst this mutation has been found in cat fleas in the UK, it is rare. Cyclodienes have been banned for some years, and I'm not aware of fleas developing resistance to fipronil from scratch. Whether there is an increase in the proportion of the flea population carrying the existing Rdl mutation, I don't know. Perhaps more likely, we are seeing an increase in average temperature during the winter and spring.

To quote Dr Payne and others from the journal Veterinary Parisitology:

"While development of resistance in cat flea populations is a possibility, we should be cautious before blaming resistance for all perceived control failures. Veterinarians must always be aware that several other factors may be involved when treatment is perceived to have failed. In clinical practice it may be difficult or impossible to determine if a particular product failed because of lack of owner compliance, presence of untreated hosts, bathing of the treated pet, or actual resistance."

It seems that in this case, I would suggest the OP is not hitting all their pets and the environment with sufficient force to break the cycle. You do need to kill adult fleas, and also stop new fleas hatching out. This can be a difficult thing to do initially, but there is some decent advice going around on this thread (except the TCP thing - sorry, I can't go with that!). Rest assured that when you do break the cycle, you will be able to sit back and use a more gentle, regular approach to keeping the fleas at bay.

suki1964

wuno wrote: »

Cat fleas resistant to cyclodiene insecticides due to the Rdl mutation are also cross-resistant to fipronil (the active killing ingredient of Frontline). Whilst this mutation has been found in cat fleas in the UK, it is rare. Cyclodienes have been banned for some years, and I'm not aware of fleas developing resistance to fipronil from scratch. Whether there is an increase in the proportion of the flea population carrying the existing Rdl mutation, I don't know. Perhaps more likely, we are seeing an increase in average temperature during the winter and spring.

To quote Dr Payne and others from the journal Veterinary Parisitology:

"While development of resistance in cat flea populations is a possibility, we should be cautious before blaming resistance for all perceived control failures. Veterinarians must always be aware that several other factors may be involved when treatment is perceived to have failed. In clinical practice it may be difficult or impossible to determine if a particular product failed because of lack of owner compliance, presence of untreated hosts, bathing of the treated pet, or actual resistance."

It seems that in this case, I would suggest the OP is not hitting all their pets and the environment with sufficient force to break the cycle. You do need to kill adult fleas, and also stop new fleas hatching out. This can be a difficult thing to do initially, but there is some decent advice going around on this thread (except the TCP thing - sorry, I can't go with that!). Rest assured that when you do break the cycle, you will be able to sit back and use a more gentle, regular approach to keeping the fleas at bay.

True - once the house has been treated (and treated yearly) I only ever frontline my dog IF he ever gets fleas - which is rare. Actually thinking about it hes not been treated since last year sometime in the summer

jess1974

I have a fluffy cat and am struggling with fleas, i frontline her regularly, but i don't think it's very effective any more. I bought indorex and have sprayed the house, i'm hoping this will get rid....

wildt

Not sure what range of flea products they sell but if you need to worm your dog afterwards I have always found vetuk.co.uk to be the cheapest for Drontal. I highly recommend them, quick delivery too

marshmallow79

Does anyone know a website that sells frontline (or something with equal if not better affect) without a perscription? My vet is refusing to give me a perscription for 2 of my pets (cat and a dog) because they've not seen them in 12 months (they're due their jabs about now but I want to get the flea problem under control first). What makes it worse is they want to charge me £17 per pet for me to visit them for a flea check (I know they have bl00dy fleas, they're everywhere!:eek:) before they will give me a persciption. Excues me for feeling slightly ripped of but I used to be able to just go to the vets buy frontline and leave no questions asked! I can't help but feel that they're doing this just to milk more money out of their customers!
I know I used to be able to buy frontline online without a persciption but I can't find the website I used, can anyone point me in the right dirction?

Edinburghlass_2

Check this thread..

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=488485