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MSE Parents Club Part 16

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  • Becles
    Becles Posts: 13,184 Forumite
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    CL wrote: »
    Sounds good Becles. I need something like that!

    They're springing up all over the place. Have a look around the net, find one and go!

    I also like it as I'm me there - not so and so's Mam. They're talking about meeting up socially one night just for a couple of quiet drinks and a chat. Think I might go to that as I don't get out often. I met a couple off here before and it was nice to just get out and chat to people. I'm self employed so I don't have colleagues to chat to during the day.

    Last day of trying to put these stupid stand up for work. None of the stores know I'm going in with them, and they haven't been very receptive about having them.

    Hope everyone has a good day xx
    Here I go again on my own....
  • rach
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    morning all

    dusty - i think the routine thing varies depending on baby and family. DH put loads of pressure for me to get into a routine as it would get ds to sleep through (ha!) according to some book we'd read. It actually stressed me out a lot and in the end we fell/eased into a routine later, i think it was after 6 weeks. I think with FF it's easier though as you know how long they will go between bottles. The best advice I was given was to do the same things in the same way every day as babies respond really well to this, and also to get up at the same time each day. We do our nightime routine at pretty much the same time each night (he goes in his bouncer about 5.45 then nappy free kick and play with daddy about 6 then bath 6.15, feed 6.30, story and bed) he does go down well then usually so it must work! Just don't let it stress you like it did me!

    Well our night was not great to put it mildly. DS did stay in the cot all night but after hardly eating any tea he woke at 10 for a feed (has been going til 12ish but I had expected him to wake early as he'd not eaten much), then 12 when dh managed to settle him with a shush and his dummy, then 2, 4 and 6 :(:(:( I tried to leave him a bit longer each time before getting up, just to see if he'd settle but ended up having to feed/cuddle him to sleep again each time. he wasn't really bothered about boob so don't think he was hungry. At 6 i just went in and put his dummy in and mobile on but he cried immediately i left the room. I just left him then as i was so exhausted, think he went back off after a bit but woke again 6.30 and moaned til dh went in at 6.50 and then dh had a go at me saying we weren't doing the crying yet. I feel like such a bad mum I am getting snappy with him, he wouldn't feed this morning apart from a tiny bit from one side and i keep snapping when he pulls my hair (v hard, he's so strong!). I'm just utterly exhausted and fed up. He looks so tired with dark rings under his eyes this morning and I am just in tears. He's down for a nap now but i can just hear him chatting to himself, not crying yet though.
    Mum to gorgeous baby boy born Sept 2010:j
  • Metranil_Vavin
    Metranil_Vavin Posts: 5,025 Forumite
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    Oh Rach so sorry you had a bad night :(

    You sound incredibly patient and not a bad mum at all! I lose the plot at times too..I think we all do.

    Have you spoken to your health visitor or GP? Is it to do with teething? Has he ever been a good sleeper?
    Metranil dreams of becoming a neon,
    You don't even take him seriously,
    How am I going to get to heaven?,
    When I'm just balanced so precariously..
  • Metranil_Vavin
    Metranil_Vavin Posts: 5,025 Forumite
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    ..btw I know the feeling when you put them down for a sleep, cross your fingers that they'll settle and then the heart sinking feeling when they start getting restless almost immediately and you're just waiting for the crying to begin.
    Metranil dreams of becoming a neon,
    You don't even take him seriously,
    How am I going to get to heaven?,
    When I'm just balanced so precariously..
  • rach
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    Thanks MV. He's never been a great sleeper, though he was best between about 6-12 weeks when he would sleep 7pm-2/3am ish but then his weight dropped down to the second centile and the HV told me to pick him up and feed him when he grumbled rather than settle him with the dummy etc. Wish i'd never listened to her as he's never slept well since.

    I think he has a bit of a cold at the moment and he is teething but tbh i've been looking for reasons forever and i think he just can't settle back to sleep once awake, he settles himself so well at bedtime though :o and even for naps like this morning after a bit of a grumble he went off. the teething etc may be causing an extra wake up but it's not the main cause.

    I did speak to HV a while ago but tbh i get better advice from friends/books/on here.
    Mum to gorgeous baby boy born Sept 2010:j
  • delain
    delain Posts: 7,700 Forumite
    edited 12 May 2011 at 10:13AM
    Thanks for the welcome ladies. Its so interesting to hear about your LOs and to see there is light at the end of the tunnel lol.

    When did you hit a routine with your little ones? DS is 6 weeks now And is averaging 5oz every 4 hours but sometimes he'll go 5 or even 6 hours to feed. This means tho that he isn't in a proper routine and not feeding at the same times every day, just when he wakes. I bath him every night, (he hates it so in trying to get him used to it) but a bath, change and feed knocks him out for hours so it's worth doing as late as possible. Last nite was 10pm Which isn't ideal for me and I think too late really and tonite was 8pm. Should he be bathed at the same time every nite?

    I also think I need to up him to 6oz as he has been draining his bottles lately so that may put him on longer

    I would up him to 6oz, better to have some left over than to have a hungry baby :)

    I've never bathed any of mine every night, as they're all a bit prone to dry skin anyway so can't help there! I'd say as close to the same time as you can get, but don't wake him for it if he's asleep. You will find as he gets bigger (maybe even in the next few weeks) he will develop a routine of his own.

    Squeak is 8 months now and has her sleeps at more or less the same time every day, and can be put down awake with ghostie quite happily. We got him in the MSE giveaway and he has been worth his weight in gold. She was 5 months when she got him but if she wakes up in the night and grizzles all we need to do is hand her ghostie and job done, she's asleep :D

    Rach we all have days like that sometimes. If the teething is what's waking him give him 2.5ml of calpol at bedtime.

    ETA: brag alert :o

    In the last week, Squeak has mastered poking her tongue out and waving Hello/goodbye (and she waves and blows kisses to waybuloo the whole time it's on!):D
    Mum of several with a twisted sense of humour and a laundry obsession :o:o
  • bexta
    bexta Posts: 753 Forumite
    Hi Digital. Don't worry about not satisfying Alexander because he's a big baby. Krystaltips (not sure she posts very much anymore) recently had an 11lb 4oz baby girl, and feeds her as well as her toddler - so it can be done :) There will be times, such as growth spurts, where you think you're not, but the more baby sucks, the more milk is produced. They may initally be a bit frustrated, but supply will catch up.

    :heart2:Sophie May:heart2:
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  • pigpen
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    Dusty.. if he drains every drop for 2 or 3 consecutive bottles add an extra 1oz.. tis the usual philosophy.

    Digi.. it takes time and doesn't all fall into place at once.. patience!! I fed DD3 and DD4 together until DD4 was a year old and I was pg with DD5 .. you will produce enough but your body is learning how much it needs so keep sticking him on to feed.. it'll work out!.. then you'll be complaining you are leaking constantly :p

    Delain.. we have just learned hand clapping and waving.. she does kisses for me and DD1 but noone else.. tis very cute. She still prefers head shaking and 'no' though.. and we terrified her yesterday by letting the rabbits run wild in the house lol.

    Rach.. this will sound crazy but it might work... turn the cot around.. or sleep him the other end or just move its orientation in the room.. Give it a few days and if it has made no difference change his bedtime routine as well..
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  • Metranil_Vavin
    Metranil_Vavin Posts: 5,025 Forumite
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    Is feeding 2 babies together very difficult?? I struggle with just latching the one on!

    Rach - have you tried taking DS for a nive long walk in the pram prior to bedtime? I'm sure you have..I just find that Josh is so much sleepier if I have been out and about with him in the fresh air.

    Hope no one minds me posting another piccie of my little fella :o

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    Metranil dreams of becoming a neon,
    You don't even take him seriously,
    How am I going to get to heaven?,
    When I'm just balanced so precariously..
  • pigpen
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    MV.. once they get to about 6-8 months they usually see a nipple and attach themselves! by 2 it is getting them off I had trouble with! I would feed DD3 after DD4 had eaten her fill.. so I knew she was getting enough.. she was 4lb 13 so it was vital she got food first.. So I never had them both attached at the same time other than 1 morning I woke up to find both attached.. they were promptly flicked off so I could go pee! lol
    LB moment 10/06 Debt Free date 6/6/14
    Hope to be debt free until the day I die
    Mortgage-free Wannabee (05/08/30)
    6/6/14 £72,454.65 (5.65% int.)
    08/12/2023 £33602.00 (4.81% int.)
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