MSE Parents Club Part 16

jennynoo

gizmodo wrote: »

((hugs)) I know it doesn't help you, but reading about other mums having similar problems to me makes me feel a bit better.

I feel the same, I just need some solid sleep. It's only going to get worse when OH goes back to work as he'll need his sleep more than me.

I'm falling asleep on the sofa at 7pm and I hate that as I feel I no longer have an evening. But I've tried the lying in (like I said I would) but I can't get back to sleep after a 6/7am feed! I'm so wide awake.


Join the club hngrymummy

Some good news from me - I expressed this morning I got 50ml in 5 minutes which I thought was quite good. In total I got 100ml in 15 minutes. It makes me think DD is getting plenty to eat after all. She rarely takes the second breast (and when she does like this morning she projectile vomits over me), so it's nice to know that in the 10 minute feed she does she probably is getting enough.

So tonight I will get OH to feed her.

So - this projectile vomiting problem - is it simply that she's just overfilled herself? It's only happened when she's had 2 breasts full in one session and she usually does within about 5 minutes of coming off the breast. She is quite a sicky baby, I wonder if she's too sicky. Will have a chat with HV when she eventually phones.

Last night OH let me go to bed without DD so I could get some sleep. So DD came upstairs at 2am for feed then stayed upstairs. Now for the past week she's had her screaming sessions at 11pm when we go to bed. Last night she slept soundly downstairs between 11 - 2am. And then had her scream session at 2am.

I'm thinking of starting a bed time routine (she's 2.5 weeks) is it too early? I'm thinking 7:30pm bath, nappy change and to bed in our bedroom on her own. Then I'll go to bed after her 10/11pm feed. And hopefully she'll be settled by then and fall asleep after that feed and the 2/3am feed?! Yeah, maybe not. I just don't know what else to do. I'm going mad.

Good news on the expressing I don't know about the vomiting but it does sound like she is full. I never bothered offering Erin a second breast as she never seemed to want it and most of the time she fell asleep after a feed so I wasn't about to wake her! People can feed from one breast only with no problems.

jennynoo

I'm a slack mummy! I didn't start a bedtime routine until Erin was 5 months old! In the evening I'm mostly sat on the laptop or watching tele so it was never a problem to have her in my arms or OH's. It was great on holiday not having any routine as in the evenings she would just come with us and sleep in our arms if she was tired and go to bed when we went to bed (we are co-sleeping) whereas my sister had to miss out on a lot of the evening activities. Eventually she started falling asleep regularly around 10pm so I would put her to bed then and gradually we started doing a routine of bath book bed and brought the time forward but following her lead of when she was tired. Now and she goes to bed at 8:30 with a feed when we go to bed around 11:30 and she doesn't get up until 9 most days (OH works mostly late shifts). We don't always bother with the bath either but it was good in the early days and she loves it.

I had to take Erin to nursery this morning and after putting on her coat she went and stood by the door ready to go out!

BargainPrincess

Hi Ladies and Babies,

Another Mummy here struggling with Breast Feeding. I thought it was getting better and then in the last week or so Ollie has been needing more. He is 5 weeks now so guess it might be a growth spurt.

Most of the time he gets so worked up and I try to calm him down to latch him on correctly. Other times he falls asleep when feeding and will suddenly wake up and yank on my nipple. Sorry for TMI!! I do find it incredibly demanding though and when it is so often it gets really painful. I really don't want to give in and my husband wants me to carry on as well as we know about the benefits and when Ollie is feeding calmly I do enjoy the closeness.

The midwife showed me how to feed him lying in bed which is great as he tends to be calmer next to me and his body is fully supported. I tend to do his night feeds like this so both he and us are not too disturbed. Only issue is that he is so cosy he falls asleep and then is not too happy at the end when I try and put him back in his moses basket.

I have found in the last few days that my breasts have been burning and painful often after feeds or when he is crying. Anyone have any ideas? There is a local breastfeeding clinic but don't think I really want to go to be told everything is normal, not painful etc etc.

Sorry if I have rambled on a bit but I am so tired. I used to have a demanding job in the city and now I can't even make toast without burning it!!

delain

BargainPrincess wrote: »

I have found in the last few days that my breasts have been burning and painful often after feeds or when he is crying. Anyone have any ideas? There is a local breastfeeding clinic but don't think I really want to go to be told everything is normal, not painful etc etc.

Sorry if I have rambled a bit but I am so tired. I used to have a demanding job in the city and now I can't even make toast without burning it!!

If it's painful, please don't let anyone tell you it isn't :eek:

BF can be painful, and anyone who tells you otherwise is an outright lair

Ask your HV if the BF group is unhelpful in that way. Someone once told me that putting a large (well depending on your chest size) savoy cabbage leaf over your boob in the cup of your bra can help. I can't remember what it was to help with, I was 17 at the time and shocked that a health professional had just told me to wear cabbage :rotfl:

Oh and the toast thing - completely normal. I have a ceramic hob (electric) and I dump junk on it when I clean the worktops, except one time I'd left a ring on and melted a plastic container to my cookertop :eek:

jennynoo

BargainPrincess wrote: »

Hi Ladies and Babies,

Another Mummy here struggling with Breast Feeding. I thought it was getting better and then in the last week or so Ollie has been needing more. He is 5 weeks now so guess it might be a growth spurt.

Most of the time he gets so worked up and I try to calm him down to latch him on correctly. Other times he falls asleep when feeding and will suddenly wake up and yank on my nipple. Sorry for TMI!! I do find it incredibly demanding though and when it is so often it gets really painful. I really don't want to give in and my husband wants me to carry on as well as we know about the benefits and when Ollie is feeding calmly I do enjoy the closeness.

The midwife showed me how to feed him lying in bed which is great as he tends to be calmer next to me and his body is fully supported. I tend to do his night feeds like this so both he and us are not too disturbed. Only issue is that he is so cosy he falls asleep and then is not too happy at the end when I try and put him back in his moses basket.

I have found in the last few days that my breasts have been burning and painful often after feeds or when he is crying. Anyone have any ideas? There is a local breastfeeding clinic but don't think I really want to go to be told everything is normal, not painful etc etc.

Sorry if I have rambled on a bit but I am so tired. I used to have a demanding job in the city and now I can't even make toast without burning it!!

Do you have the ointment to put on your nipples? Sorry, can't remember what it's called but it helps with the nipple pain and prevents blisters. You can get painful 'let down's' before feeding or during when your hind milk comes in but these sensations should stop after a while, my sister found them quite painful but I just found them funny tingling type pains and they only last a second. You shouldn't have any pain in your breast after feeding - shooting pains after feeding can be thrush and you should get treated and watch out for mastisis as well. Lots of other positions you can try as well so experiment and remember different positions will work at different times. I feed Erin to sleep - breast milk actually has something in it that stimulates the sleep hormone so helps you and baby go to sleep. However you have to prefect the insert finger to break the seal to remove baby from you but only do it when the are fully asleep (look for floppy limbs) then you can escape! Erin did yanking for a short while and I had to be ready with a finger to break the seal so it didn't hurt as much when she pulled off - it didn't last long - everything changes as they grow and develop so next week you will have completely different problems!

There is a breastfeeding helpline you can ring as well. Should be info at the start of this thread.

jennynoo

Lansinoh is the ointment, it's good as you don't have to wipe it off before you feed baby.

I also seem to remember burning cheese on toast when Erin was a few weeks old!

BargainPrincess

Thanks Ladies. I do have the lansinoh cream which I have used and has helped. I have also heard about the cabbage leaf thing - might treat myself to some greens this afternoon!!

I did think about thrush but neither Ollie or I seem to have any symptoms apart from this burning feeling. I suffered a lot with thrush during my pregnancy and really hope I don't have this in my breasts.

I think the issue is that when you are so tired every ache and pain and issue seems magnified. Does lack of sleep also make you feel shaky and cold? I just burst into tears because I dropped some biscuits on the floor and they made a bit of a mess!!

I also find it hard that I seem to spend all day feeding, looking after Ollie and trying to make him happy and he spends a lot of the time just crying when not feeding or sleeping. I know that is what babies do but I just feel like a bad mum. I have wanted this for so long and I feel guilty for finding it so hard sometimes.

There I go rambling again. I think I am going to go out with Ollie in the pram for a bit of fresh air.

gizmodo_2

BargainPrincess wrote: »

Thanks Ladies. I do have the lansinoh cream which I have used and has helped. I have also heard about the cabbage leaf thing - might treat myself to some greens this afternoon!!

I did think about thrush but neither Ollie or I seem to have any symptoms apart from this burning feeling. I suffered a lot with thrush during my pregnancy and really hope I don't have this in my breasts.

I think the issue is that when you are so tired every ache and pain and issue seems magnified. Does lack of sleep also make you feel shaky and cold? I just burst into tears because I dropped some biscuits on the floor and they made a bit of a mess!!

I also find it hard that I seem to spend all day feeding, looking after Ollie and trying to make him happy and he spends a lot of the time just crying when not feeding or sleeping. I know that is what babies do but I just feel like a bad mum. I have wanted this for so long and I feel guilty for finding it so hard sometimes.

There I go rambling again. I think I am going to go out with Ollie in the pram for a bit of fresh air.

I had the burning feeling when my milk came in and my breasts were engorged and I had it yesterday too when I think they were engorged again. I've got some gel pads which were bliss. Not very MSE. I tried savoy cabbage leaves and it was lovely but just didn't last long enough, hence why I got the pads.

All the things you are feeling...ditto. I'm getting chills and shaky. I get so cold, it's 20 degrees in the room and I've got my dressing gown and double duvet wrapped round me on top of normal clothes and I've still shivering. Then I find I get really hot at times too. I've been thinking it's over tiredness because no illness has come of it.

Got to go again. Maddy's eating her hand again

LabLover

just sneeked over from preg thread , not a mummy yet. I get the shivver thing when Im tired too , sometimes having a hot bath helps. Not really practical with a new born , but its the only thing that heats me right through when Im like that. I hope things get better for you Giz
xxx

jennynoo

Shivering and fever, feeling tired etc. are symptoms of mastisis so I think you two should talk to your GP or HV.