~Avon Hints & Tips (Part 7) ~

MarsdenCuckoo

pinky2681 wrote: »

My avon tips!
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I personally wouldnt recommend becoming a SL! It costs too much!

First you have to drive some where to stop ppl and ask if they want to be a rep, then you have to do door knocking, if ppl say yes you have to book them in to sign them up (takes hr) then you need to do a follow up appointment (another hour) you have to supply them with books etc. It costs you £25 to be a SL then you have to spend alot of time getting reps and giving them books etc, then theres petrol costs...it costs a fortune! You then need to have 5 reps getting atleast £888 in sales and your order must be over £148 to qualify for comission which is about 2%. If a rep doesnt his her MOV then you dont get anything..or if a rep decideds she doesnt want to do it anymore (alot do to be fair) then you go down to 4 you wont get a penny. If you have plenty of time and dont mind being out of pocket for a few months and manage to get at least 20 reps then yeh it might be worth it for you but you will need to keep recruiting reps every month to count for any reps that drop out.

You can be a SL straight away, i joined in march and was a SL in may...got 6 reps its now july and i have 1 rep left and i spent ages getting the 6 i have...1 rep dropped out b4 order was due & one rep didnt hit her MOV so i got no commission!

Thanks for the tips and the feedback re. your experience as a SL. It doesn't suit everyone and yes, it's definitely hard work but a lot depends too on how much support you get from your upliner.

I had 5 potential reps lined up before I opted for SL'ship and thought it would be easy. It wasn't; I failed to qualify for ages - until my upliner got me organised. She got the leads, organised the appointments, did the sign-ups with my chipping in every now and then until I felt confident to do a sign-up on my own (but with her in the background in case I missed anything). I now do the same for my team; one qualified last campaign with 7 on her team and am hoping that one will qualify this campaign. Both SL's should qualify for cash bonuses of £180 and one will even get £100+ of new Demo products totally free because she hit a challenge I was given but passed onto her. (Am not 'blindly altruistic' - by passing my leads onto her to get her qualified I will hopefully go to ASL and receive my own cash bonuses. :T)

Guess we're lucky at the moment because we have a lot of leads coming through. I've also done the 'pounding the pavements' to get useless leads but am in this for the long haul so willing to take 'the bad', hoping 'the good' is just round the corner.

PS: Yes, you're quite right about your SL Business in a Bag costing £25 but you get a SL bag and lots of training aids, as well as your badge of course, but as a SL level 1 you get up to 5% commission on your team's nett sales (that rate increases as you move up the levels)

MarsdenCuckoo

Chazolate wrote: »

I completely agree!

Yes, not for everyone but I it! :j Took me a long while to take the plunge but I much prefer building my team now to looking after customers...

pinky2681

My Asm has lots of swoop days but isnt very supportive - she has never been a rep or a SL which put me off aswell tbh - she tends to 'help' people that go to every sl meeting, go to all swoop days etc but as a mum of a baby and 4 year old i cant go to the meetings and there all 20min + drive away (thinking fuel again).

I get my delivery friday afternoons around 2pm and by the time i've bagged them up, got all books ready etc its usally 6pm! so i do 1 hour (i time myself) saturday then the rest monday. You get use to customers and who will be in sat or who doesnt mind when you come etc.

slm6002

I love delivery days too. Anyway i get deliveries on a tue (before i am out of bed its so early) and bag them up tue am. I tell them that i will deliver the next day (wed) unless they contact me to say they want another day - holiday or working late. I do 1 round in am after school run and then another about half 6 ish. If still not available i leave a note asking them to contact me for best time to deliver. Only done a few deliveries so far but it seems to work.

I also do books on this wed but i start at the begining of the list and see how far i get (depending on number of books). Last time i found if i gave those who ordered a book plus then started at top of my list i got quite confussed on who had and hadnt had one / returned one by the end of it. This time i am just doing it all in order to save confussion

I,_Geek

Deliveries - I do mine in 2 sections:

Monday - delivery gets to me around 12pm, and I tell customers in one part of the village I'll call in the evening. This area always gets covered on this day so customers get into a routine. I send notes/e-mail to confirm a couple of days before. I think I've always done at least some of the deliveries on the same day it gets to me - a bit naive at first just in case the delivery got there late, but fortunately it's the same time every campaign. I can bag everything up in just over an hour (bags are already out, order forms separated in two). I don't check off the invoice, but start putting the orders together going off the original forms (I do one for myself). If anything's missing or left over that's when I check the invoice.

Tuesday - the second area of the village gets done in the evening, plus stragglers from the day before. Again, this area's always done on this day.

Even when I tell people when I'm coming there's about 3 each time who aren't in. If I didn't give people any idea I think I'd be doing more to-ing and fro-ing. Any stragglers still left over get done on the following Monday because I'm Avoning anyway. If I'm going anywhere in the meantime I ring them to ask if they'd like me to pop over.

MarsdenCuckoo

pinky2681 wrote: »

My Asm has lots of swoop days but isnt very supportive - she has never been a rep or a SL which put me off aswell tbh - she tends to 'help' people that go to every sl meeting, go to all swoop days etc but as a mum of a baby and 4 year old i cant go to the meetings and there all 20min + drive away (thinking fuel again).

I get my delivery friday afternoons around 2pm and by the time i've bagged them up, got all books ready etc its usally 6pm! so i do 1 hour (i time myself) saturday then the rest monday. You get use to customers and who will be in sat or who doesnt mind when you come etc.

Yes, good idea to find out when your customers are likely to be in - makes it much easier for you; I hate it when they're not in.

Appreciate your viewpoint re. fuel costs; not easy unless you live in a fairly built-up area. Are your ASM meetings formal then? Last time I went to one there were two young reps, who turned up with their children (one had her twins with her :eek:). Not easy but they coped; it was in a bar/restaurant/pub too. Seems to me your ASM should prefer you to turn up with your child rather than not go at all? Each to their own though....

dean72

Thank you for both view points on sales leadership I have just joined Avon last 15 July I joined thinking of the future when I am fifty I don't want to be canvassing streets for new customers to make a living so I was tagged as trainee sales leader I know its going to be hard but my up-liner seems greet and I believe she will help me loads as she wants me to earn her money which makes me money so everyones a winner.

I joined with 5 days until order had to be in and so far got £202.30 in orders so next campaign I am hoping it will be better as people don't know me..:rotfl:

MarsdenCuckoo

Well done, dean72, and good luck with your own Avon business.

Appreciate SL'ship isn't for everyone (neither is Avon! LOL); some do make it work without the support of their upliners but it's a lot easier with help from above.

JennyJewell

Oh dear
My order day was on Monday but I was waiting on one customer, (who then didn't order anyway), I intended to put order in on Tuesday but have a lot of things going on at the moment and forgot Have remembered this morning and and put order straight on. My delivery day is tomorrow so don't expect it to happen but if not when will I receive this order please - would anyone know? I feel so stupid
Many thanx for advice - I'll also ring Avon later
Jen

MarsdenCuckoo

JennyJewell wrote: »

Oh dear
My order day was on Monday but I was waiting on one customer, (who then didn't order anyway), I intended to put order in on Tuesday but have a lot of things going on at the moment and forgot Have remembered this morning and and put order straight on. My delivery day is tomorrow so don't expect it to happen but if not when will I receive this order please - would anyone know? I feel so stupid
Many thanx for advice - I'll also ring Avon later
Jen

Check the status of your order ('Order Tracking') - should show prepared/with carrier so that will give you an idea. Rather than ring Avon, I'd ring your carrier - tel. no. should be on the back of your 'Idiot Guide to Avon' (landscaped book with face on front), least that's where we're told to write it.

Good luck.