One in six employers won't hire young people

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abaxas wrote: »

More fool you :rotfl:

When so many graduates have a 'mikey mouse' degree, it helps to have one that people regard as difficult and complex, especially from a red brick and Russel Group uni

Generali

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Why did your company hire graduates (who just spent 3 or 4 years doing mentally challenging work) and think they'd be happy doing menial work? I had a summer job when i was 16 at a factory and after 2 days of filing, they realised i was bored doing that and let me re-write their company HR database for them instead..

Would you hire people with PhDs and make them work in the canteen cleaning?

Hire people appropriately and you won't get the wrong expectations

They weren't hired to do the filing.

In banking, records have to be kept very carefully for regulatory reasons so most tasks used to throw off quite a lot of paper that needed filing. If there were 2 people doing a task, me and a grad, I would expect the grad to do it as I could be doing more useful tasks for the business in the meantime than their skills would allow.

abaxas

ringo_24601 wrote: »

When so many graduates have a 'mikey mouse' degree, it helps to have one that people regard as difficult and complex, especially from a red brick and Russel Group uni

As discussed before, no-one knows if your degree has any merit.

That is the problem!

wotsthat

abaxas wrote: »

As discussed before, no-one knows if you degree has any merit.

That is the problem!

I think HR departments know.

[Deleted User]

Generali wrote: »

They weren't hired to do the filing.

In banking, records have to be kept very carefully for regulatory reasons so most tasks used to throw off quite a lot of paper that needed filing. If there were 2 people doing a task, me and a grad, I would expect the grad to do it as I could be doing more useful tasks for the business in the meantime than their skills would allow.

Fair enough, does make sense.

abaxas

wotsthat wrote: »

I think HR departments know.

Do they have some magical crystal ball?

[Deleted User]

wotsthat wrote: »

I think HR departments know.

It's also in the title of my degree... companies rarely go "Oh look, MEng Engineering, must have been a right joke!".. Degrees are not all valued equally - the mere title of 'Genetics' immediately puts my CV in the pile marked 'people who didn't sit around for 3 years drinking redbull and cider playing Championship Manager'

Degrees are not worthless if you do the right ones.

wotsthat

abaxas wrote: »

Do they have some magical crystal ball?

OK we've been talking about degrees in maths, genetics and surfing.

Can you tell the difference or do you really need a crystal ball?

abaxas

wotsthat wrote: »

OK we've been talking about degrees in maths, genetics and surfing.

Can you tell the difference or do you really need a crystal ball?

I cant tell the difference as there is no way of comparing them. All you are doing in comparing beleifs that they have a value.

This is still my point, you simply dont know.

abaxas

ringo_24601 wrote: »

It's also in the title of my degree... companies rarely go "Oh look, MEng Engineering, must have been a right joke!".. Degrees are not all valued equally - the mere title of 'Genetics' immediately puts my CV in the pile marked 'people who didn't sit around for 3 years drinking redbull and cider playing Championship Manager'

Degrees are not worthless if you do the right ones.

Just a quickie to that.

The guy who was given a 2-1 due to 'coming out' was doing mechanical engineering.