One in six employers won't hire young people

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

wotsthat wrote: »

You assume that employers are stupid.

Maybe they can spot the difference between a first in maths and a pass in surfing.

Not at all,it's just that unless it's a first in maths or something similar most degrees are just plain useless but as someone before me has already stated all graduates come into the workplace with the expectation of receiving equivalent salaries.
That's where the problem lies.

wotsthat

ILW wrote: »

Must be a bit sickening to find out that you have just wasted 3 years and got yourself into massive debt for nothing. I wonder if that is why there seems to be a sort of group denial?

I heard an interesting discussion on the Jeremy Vine show some time ago where an outraged mother was disgusted that her graduate son was rejected for a supermarket shelf stacking job. She wanted to know why, with his qualifications, he was rejected.

Someone else 'phoned in with a probable answer. The person who got the job may not have been as well qualified but maybe they had some experience in shelf stacking.

I can understand the students being in denial (they are young and optimistic) but you'd think the parents would be saying something along the lines of "look you'll be £25,000 in debt if you achieve this qualification - is it worth it?"

wotsthat

MRSTITTLEMOUSE wrote: »

Not at all,it's just that unless it's a first in maths or something similar most degrees are just plain useless but as someone before me has already stated all graduates come into the workplace with the expectation of receiving equivalent salaries.
That's where the problem lies.

They might have that expectation when they are looking for a job but I'm pretty sure that they won't have it by the time they start their first job.

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

wotsthat wrote: »

They might have that expectation when they are looking for a job but I'm pretty sure that they won't have it by the time they start their first job.

Have to agree with you there.

Generali

MRSTITTLEMOUSE wrote: »

Not at all,it's just that unless it's a first in maths or something similar most degrees are just plain useless but as someone before me has already stated all graduates come into the workplace with the expectation of receiving equivalent salaries.
That's where the problem lies.

One place I used to work, I was given the grads to train. It amazed me the number that expected me to do the filing rather than them.

For a minority, when I pointed out from a business pov it was better to have someone on £15/hr doing the menial work than someone on £30+/hr they'd start complaining they were underpaid.

To be fair, plenty were happy to muck in and realised that doing the menial stuff would only be for a year or so before the next lot of intakes would be doing the dull stuff. Also, it was good that they wanted to push themselves. There was a tendency to try to run before they could walk.

[Deleted User]

Generali wrote: »

One place I used to work, I was given the grads to train. It amazed me the number that expected me to do the filing rather than them.

Why did your company hire graduates (who just spent 3 or 4 years doing mentally challenging work) and think they'd be happy doing menial work? I had a summer job when i was 16 at a factory and after 2 days of filing, they realised i was bored doing that and let me re-write their company HR database for them instead..

Would you hire people with PhDs and make them work in the canteen cleaning?

Hire people appropriately and you won't get the wrong expectations

abaxas

ringo_24601 wrote: »

(who just spent 3 or 4 years doing mentally challenging work)

Time for a face palm.

[Deleted User]

abaxas wrote: »

Time for a face palm.

I studied genetics. It wasn't easy

abaxas

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I studied genetics. It wasn't easy

More fool you :rotfl:

wotsthat

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Would you hire people with PhDs and make them work in the canteen cleaning?

Yes. Why not as part of an induction?

It helps them to realise that, despite their genius, they are part of a team.