One in six employers won't hire young people

Degenerate

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I think it may be yourself who's missed a trick or two.

No, that would be you, since your post was an answer to a different question.

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I think it may be yourself who's missed a trick or two..



http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/16/jobless-total-rises-public-sector

Hardly painting a wonderfully 'rosy' picture of 5 out of 6 employers welcoming youngsters ( any ) with open arms into their workplace at the moment, is it ? The figures are rising very rapidly.. and then of course there's a massive shortage of University and College places to come as well.. further upping the figures long-term.

As unemployment in general is at one of the highest levels 'since records began in 1992' it's hardly surprising that youth unemployment is high too.

I'm not sure providing youngsters with qualifications that will have no practical application or provide any benefit beyond allowing banks to sell a little more debt just to massage the unemployment figures down is a good thing myself. You seem to approve.

Shakethedisease

Degenerate wrote: »

No, that would be you, since your post was an answer to a different question.

I do apologise.. now run along dear while the rest of us have a nice chat with an actual point to posting it.

You seem to approve.

I certainly do not. As a mum to one of those unemployed youths desperately trying to find work.

The fact is that young ones are between a rock and a hard place. Can't get work without qualifications, yet can't get work even after they graduate. There is no 'in-between' anymore for them. It's stay in Education or facing years of unemployment.

Which do you go for ?

Was there myself in the 80's, but at least there was YTS and things to give you 'some' semblance of what working life was about and a bit of cash ( £27.50, or £35.00 a week wasn't it ? ). At the very least you got a reference out of it.

Now it's either stay in the education system, ( gaining sometimes useless qualifications ) or flounder. There needs to be something urgent set up in-between.. to gain 'practically appliable' skills as you say, especially for those kids that aren't constantly pushing out top marks in exams. But it's not there.. and no sign of it on the horizon really.

ILW

I believe the care sector is still recruiting, but many young people will not take these jobs.

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Now it's either stay in the education system, ( gaining sometimes useless qualifications ) or flounder. There needs to be something urgent set up in-between.. to gain 'practically appliable' skills as you say, especially for those kids that aren't constantly pushing out top marks in exams. But it's not there.. and no sign of it on the horizon really.

You hit the nail on the head.

Labour (and loads of Governments around the world) I can only assume saw a report stating uni education = higher income without realising that the reason for this was that an elite 10% or 20% were getting this education and then filling the professions, banking, engineering, military officers, civil service management etc.

If you increase the proportion of people going to university you don't increase the number of elite jobs.

By increasing the numbers going to university, people that would ordinarily have done skilled jobs such as tradies, that could earn good money, spend an extra 5 or more years earning and enter the world of work without debt are being convinced to go to university to do courses that in many cases will actually hinder their chances.

ILW

Generali wrote: »

You hit the nail on the head.

Labour (and loads of Governments around the world) I can only assume saw a report stating uni education = higher income without realising that the reason for this was that an elite 10% or 20% were getting this education and then filling the professions, banking, engineering, military officers, civil service management etc.

If you increase the proportion of people going to university you don't increase the number of elite jobs.

By increasing the numbers going to university, people that would ordinarily have done skilled jobs such as tradies, that could earn good money, spend an extra 5 or more years earning and enter the world of work without debt are being convinced to go to university to do courses that in many cases will actually hinder their chances.

Why do many find that impossible to grasp?

Generali

ILW wrote: »

Why do many find that impossible to grasp?

I don't know but I suspect it has a lot to do with socialists running education for the past 45 years.

wotsthat

Generali wrote: »

I don't know but I suspect it has a lot to do with socialists running education for the past 45 years.

The teaching of history seems to have gone downhill as well.

Margaret Thatcher spent a good chunk of the last 45 years running education as well. Never heard her called a socialist before.

wymondham

You're up late Gen - drowning your sorrows .... ;-)

ILW

As more and more not very bright people are get degrees, their value just decreases. And so will the average graduate pay.