One in six employers won't hire young people

abaxas

redcard wrote: »

Exactly. Maybe it's time you upped your game.

I left it all to become a professional gambler :P

A year working on the NHS spine finally killed me off. I simply couldnt take the crap anymore.

Old_Slaphead

markharding557 wrote: »

Labour did too little but that 'little' is more than what young people will get now

Labour decimated pensions - that's why old fogies are job-blocking.

Labour did little to create productive new jobs focussing instead on increasing the state.

Labour decimated education standards - that's why many of the young are unemployed.

markharding557

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

Labour decimated pensions - that's why old fogies are job-blocking.

Labour did little to create productive new jobs focussing instead on increasing the state.

Labour decimated education standards - that's why many of the young are unemployed.

I agree with the above.
How does removing what bit of help the young people have help though this is where i think the government have made a mistake.

Irish-John_2

Interesting discussion. Would people regard a BA (Hons) Politics, Philosophy and Economics degree as Mickey Mouse or good ? Which side would a PPE fall into?

Derivative

Irish-John wrote: »

Interesting discussion. Would people regard a BA (Hons) Politics, Philosophy and Economics degree as Mickey Mouse or good ? Which side would a PPE fall into?

Is there a reason you keep posting this in every thread?
Take the degree if you're interested in it and if it's not at an ex poly.

Reactor_2

I'll use a simple analogy that everyone understands and is applied when recruiting potential employees:

A beautiful girl or an extremely good looking guy can choose who they sleep with. Naturally, they will choose the best they can get, with the main discriminator being physical attactiveness.

With an employer, it's down to the best qualified and experienced.

If recruiting for somone on the graduate scheme, then the first filter is institution followed by grade. The best advice I can give is that you get into one of the top 5 universities and get a first, ideally in a degree you like. It is as close you are going to get to the holy grail and earning more than the average salary of £26k when you first come out.

For everyone else, I'm sorry to say, but you've wasted your time and money as realistically you will only be able to get half of that.

Derivative

Reactor wrote: »

For everyone else, I'm sorry to say, but you've wasted your time and money as realistically you will only be able to get half of that.

This is a symptom of Labour's "expand University attendance at all costs" regime.
There is a distinct difference between providing for _talented_ working class individuals, and saying that everyone should go off and do a 'degree' in surf studies.

I think we need more realistic careers guidance, and proper discipline in schools. When I was in secondary, the punishment for truanting was basically nothing. Noone told me that I was killing the chances of getting a decent job. Noone told me you needed straight A's at A-level to stand a chance at getting into Uni.

Thankfully after working a few months as a till jockey I pulled my finger out, went back to college and got myself a decent Uni place. How that'll work out for me career wise I don't know yet. But I do know had I taken a few years longer to make my decision I'd be stuck in unskilled labour with the motivation I had back then.

abaxas

Irish-John wrote: »

Interesting discussion. Would people regard a BA (Hons) Politics, Philosophy and Economics degree as Mickey Mouse or good ? Which side would a PPE fall into?

It's a degree, hence no-one has any idea of it's value.

wotsthat

abaxas wrote: »

It's a degree, hence no-one has any idea of it's value.

I think it's been explained to you already.

Just because you simply haven't got a clue how to tell the difference between a good degree and one that isn't doesn't mean that no-one has any idea.

abaxas

wotsthat wrote: »

I think it's been explained to you already.

Just because you simply haven't got a clue how to tell the difference between a good degree and one that isn't doesn't mean that no-one has any idea.

Sorry my mistake,

Your degree is only as good as people's belief in it being any good. It might have worth, it might not. Only way to find out is to do some market research, then you will know if it has any value.