Any reviews or thoughts on these mattresses

walkon

Dark Glasses I went into dreams a few days ago. They even asked me if I wanted a drink.

I only see about two mattress i liked and one was the capri. The capri cost £699 just for a double. Dreams is very very over priced for what they sell. Even thier own versions.

Dreams did do me a deal but i only had that day. I was not 100% about the mattress but was told, if I wanted to use the 30 day returns, I would have to pay back the discount they gave me. No point really,that is one of dreams selling points. Did not go back.

I did try that gel mattress though and it were really nice but it was over a grand. So had to leave it.

I then went into paul simon and they are a bit better. I really like the Concerto 2000 Double Mattress but at £599 it was a bit to much. I tried to get them to budge on price but they are so tight on knocking money off, i didn't bother.

You can get rest assured own versions cheaper online.

I have had a look at some more of tim's posts. Not much about dorlux or kaymed, only that they supply memory foam to most other brands.

Tim talks about reflex foam which apparently is not very good. Well I have taken a part my old pocket 1000 from reylon and I believe it had that to. Thats why it's so poor. I did find a lable that said, punktoflax but seems to be the same as reflex foam.

I will just say this. A lot of people asked tim what would he recommend but tim said, he can't say or it would be advertising.

Why can't tim give his opinion like I or you would. It don't mean you want to sell something. That is a bit annoying.

walkon

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

The problem isn't with comfort when new, it's with long term reliability.

Hi tim. Thanks for the reply. I were just talking about you lol. We must of posted at the same time.

Can I ask you a question tim. Most things we buy have a shelf life. We have a rough guide on how long things should last, depending on what we buy.

Question is, how long should a mattress last that we would buy today?

This is my view. I would say a mattress should last about ten years. Going back 20 or 30 years ago, i would of said about 16 years but nothing is made as good now.

Btw about keymead gel beds.
gel-beds.blogspot.com ur-new-kaynmed-gel-bed-first-proper.

Use google as i can't post links.

MrsE_2

Mine is a Kaymed sold by Dreams & rebadged by them.
Its fantastic, the best bed I have ever owned or slept in by far.

walkon

SkeeterUK wrote: »

All i know is i looked for a bed got advice most of which was common sense. Found a place called bishop beds. Saw the restus savoy double cheap and snaped it up and loving it after about a month.

Thanks. I did have a look at them. Not bad and some top brands but I would be worried about the quality. I don't know many of the brands they sell.

Tim_Deegan

Dark_Glasses wrote: »

I do understand where Tim is coming from with his comments on pockets and slats, but why aren't everyone saying this? Surely, if pocket sprung should not be used with slats this would invalidate any warranty???

Because most retailers, and some manufacturers don't care about long term reliability, they just want a sale.

Most of the full guarantees are 12 months, but extended warranties often say that you have to also purchase the base from them at same time (usually as a divan set). And even on a slatted base they should last at least 12 months.

Also there are many sales staff who actually don't know much about the products they are selling.

Dark_Glasses wrote: »

Anyhoooo, mindful of Tim’s comments, I moved on to the pocket spring, double sided foam Madrid and Venice (which i understand Tim helped design/develop – good for him). Notwithstanding the wide slat/slim slat gap the rationale for double sided foam makes sense as I have become a serial monthly mattress turner, having partaken in this fun filled activity as a young child and returned to it following the problems experienced with my dipping mattress! I am very uncomfortable about a 1 year guarantee (my mobile costs less than half the price and has a two year guarantee). I am also worried about being too hot in bed (lol, but I really am). These concerns are holding me back from making the plunge. It would be good to have "I've had this or that mattress for 2.5 years and..." feedback Mum's Caversham has a five year guarantee.

Most full guarantees are for 12 months. When you see a longer warranty, it is usually on a sliding scale. All products must have a design life. So for example if something has a design life of 5 years, and develops a fault due to materials or workmanship after 4 years, then the manufacturer must pay towards the cost of replacement or repair. But you would have to pay 80% plus delivery. So when manufacturers give a 5 year warranty, then they are only doing what they are obliged to do by law, but they are using it as a sales gimmick.

If there was a fault in the manufacturing process then it should appear within 12 months anyway.

Dark_Glasses wrote: »

I am hoping my impending trip to retail park armed with aide memoire, no spending money/cards/id, spending an unhelpful 10 minutes on a minimum 10 inch foam (60-70kg per m3) topped mattress with at least 800 springs (steel ones) is useful!

A retail park would be the worst place to buy from.

Tim_Deegan

Dark_Glasses wrote: »

Thanks for this. I enjoyed your earlier review, very detailed. Did you buy the Climasmart cover? We also have the same situation re child, and have a waterproof JL total enclosure cover on our mattress, with a feather topper inside this also, and I couldn't find anything as to how covers interact with foam. I couldn't make out whether you have the cover and can't feel the heat from the foam because of the protector.


Also when you purchased the Madrid, were you looking for a medium firm mattress or a firm. I suffer from back problems esp in the winter, I sleep on my side. Do you have problems turning in the foam?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but you are full of relevant information.:T

I thin mattress protector will still allow climate control fabrics to work (not wicking fabrics like Coolmax though). If you have a thick mattress protector, or a topper, then this will stop the memory foam working properly, as it needs your body heat to react with is so that it can mould to your body.

Tim_Deegan

walkon wrote: »

Hi tim. Thanks for the reply. I were just talking about you lol. We must of posted at the same time.

Can I ask you a question tim. Most things we buy have a shelf life. We have a rough guide on how long things should last, depending on what we buy.

Question is, how long should a mattress last that we would buy today?

This is my view. I would say a mattress should last about ten years. Going back 20 or 30 years ago, i would of said about 16 years but nothing is made as good now.

Btw about keymead gel beds.
gel-beds.blogspot.com ur-new-kaynmed-gel-bed-first-proper.

Use google as i can't post links.

A good quality mattress should give a minimum of 10 years good service, and prbably much longer if looked after properly. Although the way that many of the big brands manufacture them these days means that this is unlikely. Most of the smaller independent manufacturers still use traditional methods, so theirs should last longer.

Kaymed are a good brand, but are very over priced. You will actually find that many manufacturers of quality memory foam mattresses in the UK, actually use either Kaymed or Vitafoam memory foam in their mattresses (there isn't really and difference in quality between the two manufacturers).

walkon

Thank you very much tim for your reply.


If only I had known before.

Dark_Glasses

walkon wrote: »

Dark Glasses I went into dreams a few days ago. They even asked me if I wanted a drink.

I only see about two mattress i liked and one was the capri. The capri cost £699 just for a double. Dreams is very very over priced for what they sell. Even thier own versions.

Dreams did do me a deal but i only had that day. I was not 100% about the mattress but was told, if I wanted to use the 30 day returns, I would have to pay back the discount they gave me. No point really,that is one of dreams selling points. Did not go back.

I did try that gel mattress though and it were really nice but it was over a grand. So had to leave it.

I then went into paul simon and they are a bit better. I really like the Concerto 2000 Double Mattress but at £599 it was a bit to much. I tried to get them to budge on price but they are so tight on knocking money off, i didn't bother.

You can get rest assured own versions cheaper online.

I have had a look at some more of tim's posts. Not much about dorlux or kaymed, only that they supply memory foam to most other brands.

Tim talks about reflex foam which apparently is not very good. Well I have taken a part my old pocket 1000 from reylon and I believe it had that to. Thats why it's so poor. I did find a lable that said, punktoflax but seems to be the same as reflex foam.

I will just say this. A lot of people asked tim what would he recommend but tim said, he can't say or it would be advertising.

Why can't tim give his opinion like I or you would. It don't mean you want to sell something. That is a bit annoying.

LOL, I was offered a drink also, as well as the buy now or tomorrow it goes up 'threat'. I laughed - 10 years ago that would have had me flying into my purse throwing cash to secure the 'disappearing deal'! Like you I will not be going back to Dreams - it's good for a nosey around though.

I've not heard of Paul Simon, will look them up. There are not many independent bed sellers by me to get advice from, and the ones that do exist sell old tat (four drawer doubles that cost £199). I would like to have a good old natter about my mattress, I find that when I start talking more and more queries come out, as per retail park visit, and they were hard pushed to answer them.

I think I know what I want, it's just the price holding me back. I do love a bargain, and wish there was more competition for the one I want, free delivery would clinch it!!:rotfl:

Good luck with your hunt. Remember to put lots of feedback. A bed blog is needed I'm sure.

Dark_Glasses

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

I thin mattress protector will still allow climate control fabrics to work (not wicking fabrics like Coolmax though). If you have a thick mattress protector, or a topper, then this will stop the memory foam working properly, as it needs your body heat to react with is so that it can mould to your body.

Thanks Tim, the topper will go (it was bought to revive a horrid mattress, yes I know you shouldn't but it is a fabulous short term investment).

The protector is John lewis "100% cotton with a breathable, polyurethane backing and are zipped to fully enclose the mattress and reduce allergens." Hopefully this will not suffocate the mattress