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Boxing day tube strikes

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  • I'm confused why you are bothering to post ryantcb. You tested the water with your opening post but received a fairly negative reaction and the chances of you changing anybodies mind is very slim going by the posts most have made. So why not just let it drop?
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
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    esmerobbo wrote: »
    With regards to the one under which must be truly traumatic for the driver, can we really base a wage on something that may happen?

    I can think of many jobs which are less well paid but traumatic episode could happen!

    My point was however traumatic it is for a tube driver to witness a one under a wage cant be based on the fact something traumatic may happen. The topic was side tracked when it was said that other professions have to deal with trauma for less pay.

    If you feel justified in striking then well and good that is your right. You posted to explain your side. However it seems that you have not got much support for your complaints.
  • mjm3346
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    ryantcb wrote: »
    You need proof and facts please or i could just write this.


    Nurses are woking just 3 days a weeks an get paid £37,000 per year. They also have full private health care and pensions 8x the national average. Their bonuses are comparable to that of city traders as more and more hospitals turn to private ownership. With nurses only working for NHS 3 days a week they are able to work in the private sector and wages can top the 6 figure mark.

    I have proof and facts (will add shortly), where are yours?
  • ryantcb
    ryantcb Posts: 273 Forumite
    mine was made up to prove how easy it is to say something without proof. when you can present that truth then make your statement.
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  • mjm3346
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    The cost of compensation to affected railway workers is about £560,000 a year

    That is figure used in 2006 by Thompsons Solicitors

    Poke around their site and you will find it

    http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/index.htm


    From the December 2005 publication
    "Rebuilding Lives
    - supporting
    victims of crime
    Crown Copyright 2005

    On average over the last 5 years: 153 railway employees got £0.5m".



    also

    Claims are paid by the taxpayer under the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme

    You may get an award if.....
    You were injured as a result of someone

    committing an offence of trespass on a railway
    .
    To claim you must:
    be a railway employee who has witnessed or
    been present when someone was killed or
    seriously injured as a result of the crime, or
    involved in its immediate aftermath (the
    events that happened straight after the
    incident); and.

    http://www.cica.gov.uk/en-gb/
  • PsiDOC
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    Maybe my previous comment was a bit flippant.

    If you're looking for sympathy on this one it's Somewhere between Sh*t and Syphyllis in the dictionary.

    I work on an oil refinery. Maybe we should go on strike as well as we have to work Xmas and boxing day for single time. It's in my contract and it's a normal working day for us.
    It takes 4 days to shut down safely and approx 6 days to bring it back up and be on spec so you're looking at 11 days minimum stoppage.
    Remember this happened in Grangemouth in 2008. The forecourts were in crisis BEFORE the place was shut down.
    You'd soon be moaning because there's a fuel shortage and you can't drive your car wouldn't you?
    That said I will be at work for my shifts why? Because it's in my contract that I signed.

    So please go play with your train set, stop acting like a child, deal with it and move on and in the same light I'll make sure you have enough petrol to put in your car.

    Sheesh!
    Near a tree by a river, there's a hole in the ground.
    Where an old man of Aran goes around and around....

  • mjm3346
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    ryantcb wrote: »
    Before everyone moans about tube drivers striking on boxing day. I would like to explain it from a drivers point of view.

    First point to clear up is the amount of holiday we get.
    we get 8 weeks but that included all public holidays and we work 40 hours a week and only get paid 35 so those extra 5 hours per week go towards the 8 weeks.


    From 2009
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/5496579/Tube-drivers-earn-10000-a-year-more-than-nurses.html
    With an annual salary of £40,000 for a 35-hour week a London tube driver earns £10,000 a year more than the average London nurse.

    There are other advantages to the job, including 43 days' annual leave and free staff travel for themselves and their spouse.

    According to that you work a 35 hour week.
  • ryantcb
    ryantcb Posts: 273 Forumite
    PsiDOC wrote: »
    Maybe my previous comment was a bit flippant.

    If you're looking for sympathy on this one it's Somewhere between Sh*t and Syphyllis in the dictionary.

    I work on an oil refinery. Maybe we should go on strike as well as we have to work Xmas and boxing day for single time. It's in my contract and it's a normal working day for us.
    It takes 4 days to shut down safely and approx 6 days to bring it back up and be on spec so you're looking at 11 days minimum stoppage.
    Remember this happened in Grangemouth in 2008. The forecourts were in crisis BEFORE the place was shut down.
    You'd soon be moaning because there's a fuel shortage and you can't drive your car wouldn't you?
    That said I will be at work for my shifts why? Because it's in my contract that I signed.

    So please go play with your train set, stop acting like a child, deal with it and move on and in the same light I'll make sure you have enough petrol to put in your car.



    Sheesh!


    If it wasnt in your contract would you do it though?
    Also as a public transport worker I am allowed to show my staff pass and fill my car up without hassle during the fuel shortages. So thanks but im ok.
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  • ryantcb
    ryantcb Posts: 273 Forumite
    edited 24 December 2010 at 2:21PM
    With an annual salary of £40,000 for a 35-hour week a London tube driver earns £10,000 a year more than the average London nurse.

    There are other advantages to the job, including 43 days' annual leave and free staff travel for themselves and their spouse.


    We get paid 35 hours but work 40. thats how it accumulates up to 43 days annul leave. work out 5 hours x 52 weeks and see how many days that gives us. We earn it we dont just get it.

    Free travel, thats great but not living in london just when do I or my spouse get to use it? Still I could have a company car and use it for my whole family.

    Delete as approriate

    I would like to be a Nurse on £30k / Tube driver on £43k, I realise that the chance to be a Nurse/ Tube driver is open to all and if I chose to become a nurse/ tube driver as apposed to a nurse/ tube driver then it is my personal choice and begrudging those who chose the other option is just daft.
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