Child would like unsuitable game for christmas HELP!

PinkLipgloss

kathy206 wrote: »

What a RIDICULOUS comment to make. Do you not think that SS have more pressing issues to deal with?
I totally agree that an 8yo should NOT be playing an 18 rated game but-social services? Seriously?:eek:

Just to pick up on this point - as a teacher I am LEGALLY REQUIRED to inform the Head Teacher when my children make references to playing these games.

The Head Teacher is then LEGALLY REQUIRED to report it to the authorities.

If you had, as I have, witnessed the effects of these games on young children then I believe you would see it as a form of child abuse allowing them to play them.

EDIT (addition) Social Services took these reports very seriously and acted on them.

Jacks_xxx

cheepskate wrote: »

Social work is going to be inundated with referals. Dont really think this is a ss issue.

You're right. The parents are breaking the law so it is a legal issue first and foremost I suppose.

I do think there is an argument that it's child abuse to not protect an 8 year old from pornography, 18 rated films and 18 rated games.

marvic31

If he is not the legal age to but it himself then he should not be playing it. Would you buy him cigarettes because his friends were smoking them?

I would not let my son play this game, its too violent, it is rated 18 for a reason.

If you dont let him watch rated 18 films then it should be the same for the game.

I can remember being in argos and this young boy asked me if I could buy him a game if he gave me the money. I asked why he could not buy it himself and he told me he was not old enough.
I refused of course.

suited-aces

Thank god our social workers are cracking down on this, I just pray that cases of actual real world violence don't get in the way of their valiant efforts.

kegg_2

PinkLipgloss wrote: »

Just to pick up on this point - as a teacher I am LEGALLY REQUIRED to inform the Head Teacher when my children make references to playing these games.

The Head Teacher is then LEGALLY REQUIRED to report it to the authorities.

If you had, as I have, witnessed the effects of these games on young children then I believe you would see it as a form of child abuse allowing them to play them.

EDIT (addition) Social Services took these reports very seriously and acted on them.

Why are you legally required to report if a child has played these games? No law has been broken if a parent buys the game and then allows the child to play it.
The offence is only if the under 18 buys it (read the video recording act 1984 section 2 covering exempted supply.

maybe if social services didn't have busy body reports to deal with they would have more time to look after the baby P cases in this country.

kegg_2

EXEMPT SUPPLY

Even if a work itself is not exempt, it is possible that its supply is. The Act defines an exempt supply as one which is neither ‘a supply for reward’ nor ‘in the course or furtherance of a business’. So, if there is no reward (eg exchange of money) associated in any way with the transaction, and as long as the supply is entirely unrelated to any business activity, the supply could be considered exempt. This would not be the case, for instance, if videos were being lent or given away to attract customers to a shop, even one whose actual business was unrelated to video.

Jacks_xxx

suited-aces wrote: »

Thank god our social workers are cracking down on this, I just pray that cases of actual real world violence don't get in the way of their valiant efforts.

You can't envisage any possible link between children playing these games at a young age and the violence on our streets?

Everyone's been having a total panic about knife crime for the last couple of years

Why did our young men suddenly decide to start stabbing each other to death with such horrifying regularity?

Does anybody know?

Have violent games been absolutely ruled out?

Do we want to take the risk with our next generation if there's even a possibility that playing these games is linked to real life deaths?

Like I said a few pages back

We don't know. These things are too new to have had enough long term studies done.

Meanwhile...

Until we know more...

I'd prefer it if we protected children from violence of all kinds.

Jacks_xxx

kegg wrote: »

Why are you legally required to report if a child has played these games? No law has been broken if a parent buys the game and then allows the child to play it.
The offence is only if the under 18 buys it (read the video recording act 1984 section 2 covering exempted supply.

maybe if social services didn't have busy body reports to deal with they would have more time to look after the baby P cases in this country.

It's not like alcohol, cigarettes or pornography where it is an offence to supply it to a child?

It's just bad parenting and child abuse?

That's Ok then.

We wouldn't want social workers looking into that.

Wasn't the main leisure activity in Baby P's godforsaken household - besides torturing him - playing violent video games?

kafkathecat

This debate has got increasingly hysterical so I think this will be my last post.
Some inadequate parents will use these games to keep their children quiet and keep them out of the way. The poor parenting is more likely to be a problem than the game.
Studies have been done and have found little to no link. If someone can show me a study that says different and not some inaccurate newspaper report I would be genuinely interested.
All crime including violent crime has been falling (stats to hand show recorded violent crime fell 5% from 08/09 to 09/10) it is just that the media focus on it so much more. Contrast the cases of Mary Bell and Venables and Bulger.
Everyone will believe what they want to believe though so carry on.

cheepskate_2

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

It's just bad parenting and child abuse?

If you dont do as i say, then im going to brand you as an abuser and bad parent. You sound a lovely person.

Agree with kafkathecat I am bowing out of this thread for the same reason.