MSE News: Tuition fees to hit £9,000 as Government wins vote

paddedjohn

I bet the moaners on here who are against the rise in fees (upto 9k a year not 9k full stop) would have been up in arms when the poll tax was proposed. People took to rioting in London because they thought it was unfair that they may have to pay their fair share, the poll tax was a fair system because why should a married couple in one house pay the same as next door with three adults? the thick clowns couldnt get their heads round it then and they cant now.
one more thing, why should the rich pay for your extra education? if you want to better yourself then invest in yourself

AndyGuil

Brini5 wrote: »

Does anyone know what these tuition fee rises will mean for those who want to do postgraduate study such as doctorates?

No change. Post graduates already pay full fees and don't get student loan.

WhiteHorse

paddedjohn wrote: »

... the poll tax was a fair system because why should a married couple in one house pay the same as next door with three adults?

How it panned out in reality was rather different.

To put it crudely, greedy councils simply applied the former ratable value to each adult. Thus, your family of 3 that was paying £1000, suddenly found it was paying £3000.

Which was of course impossible.

laughingboy

Well no more subsidising students.

Now, how about making children pay to go to school. Because I don't have children, why should my taxes subsidise somebody else's? If these kids want to 'better' themselves they bloody well ought to pay for it...

Lokolo

laughingboy wrote: »

Well no more subsidising students.

Now, how about making children pay to go to school. Because I don't have children, why should my taxes subsidise somebody else's? If these kids want to 'better' themselves they bloody well ought to pay for it...

I like to look at it the other way round. You get your own education free, and pay it back when you are earning.

WhiteHorse

oompahloompah wrote: »

We ALL need doctors, nurses, engineers, scientists, architects, teachers, pharmacists and so on, all of which need a degree for entry level.

And we don't actually need meeja studies, sports studies, goat yodelling, underwater basket weaving and the rest.

These are not essentials.

WhiteHorse

Rossy. wrote: »

Maybe it'll stop students pi$$ing their student loans down the pub/clubs and actually use it to fund their education.

Yes indeed.

If students are so poverty stricken, then why do so many university prospectuses highlight 'nearby nightlife'? The number of bars in the 'student union' and similar facilities? Why are student areas filled with fast food joints, nightclubs and sleazy, overpriced bars?

These are indicative of plenty of ready money.

WhiteHorse

Snakeeyes21 wrote: »

great isnt it. Maybe now we will actually get people going to uni who want to be there.
Not just a bunch of smelly wasters doing medja studies to get out of entering the real world for 3 years.

A bit sweeping perhaps, but essentially true.

But let's not forget that the layabouts are only taking what's on offer. And who created this lunatic situation? Politicians trying to buy votes.

Johnburton

Lokolo wrote: »

Currently, taxes go towards subsidising students university education even though it is a choice.

Choices need to be paid for by the people, not by others.

You want the choice to drive, you pay for a car.
You want the choice for a house, you buy a house.
You want the choice for a boob job, you pay for it.

The fact is, with this, the taxes will no longer subsidise those that do go to university, making it exceptionally fair on those that do not go to university.

University isn't the only option out there to "better yourself".

So does that mean that if you need an operation in hospital and I don't, that I shouldn't pay towards your operation. That seems to be the principle of what you are saying.

olly300

Brini5 wrote: »

Does anyone know what these tuition fee rises will mean for those who want to do postgraduate study such as doctorates?

Postgraduate study is a choice - you either:
1. Choose a subject where you can get sponsorship easily i.e. not an arts subject
2. Pay for it yourself