Hate Ebay? How you can help me.

Crowqueen

KChildheart wrote: »

one thing I would say, is that this site would/could attract 'new' sellers as there are no listing fee's and that's a huge bonus for people who haven't sold any item before and want to test the waters.

I might suggest to the OP that they provide tutorials as such for the users and friendly advice, perhaps even a forum or advice board. I'm sure the OP already knows this, but to attract traffic of any kind (even if it is spiders) a website needs content and links.

Again, point me to where this works on eBid, as although people can test the water listing there, there are very few sales of any description on free sites.

Providing content in the first instance also costs money, of which OP isn't going to have an awful lot.

laying4profit

soolin wrote: »

Your figures BTW are wrong,
My £10 item would cost me 25p listing fees, no extra fees as I use photobucket to host photos , FVFs are around 68p (I am a TRS)

Im still cheaper then.But once again you are using your OWN account as a guide which is wrong. I am using the general one.

soolin wrote: »

Sorry but no. 40p to list on BIN and i only use a bIN if i have multiple items. I have one at the moment with 50 items included. Less FVFs of around 9% less TRS discount of 20%.

So you are now saying you want small private sellers who probably use the FLD on ebay to list so all they are saving is the FVFs, yes?

The fees i had included the listing fee And the FVF.;)And i was saying 1000 items at £10.00 each not a JOB lot as that would be a dutch auction.I must make it easier to read in future sorry.
The only fee anyone beit buyer or seller has to worry about is the buyer fee.
How they choose to use it is up to them. if the seller want to pay the fee then fine. Im not getting involved in that.
Here are the buyer fees again.
From GBP 0.01 To GBP 10.00 GBP 0.10 From GBP 10.01 To GBP 100.00 GBP 1.00 From GBP 100.01 To GBP 1,000.00 GBP 2.00 From GBP 1,001.00 To GBP 5,000.00 GBP 5.00 From GBP 5,001.00 To GBP 10,000.00 GBP 10.00 From GBP 10,000.00 To Above GBP 20.00
Although there might be a few added inbetween yet i dont know...
Now these fees are crystal clear. There is no % to work out at all or no FVF.Both the seller & the buyer know EXACTLY what is due.Thats how i wish to keep it.
I want small and large sellers. I want who can see that by using my site they save money. long term or short term.I want people to see i have nothing to hide. no hidden fees.

Why are you so against how this works? In a business sense it would make you money long term. Even if you were to pay the fee above for the seller you still make money.
You can even have a shop on my site with 200 items for FREE. Ebay charge you £14.99 a month for a basic one.

The other thing i am getting feedback on is that Ebay make the seller jump though all sort of hoops nowadays and the seller is not really in control of the sale. This is what i am told by a powerseller

laying4profit

KChildheart wrote: »

one thing I would say, is that this site would/could attract 'new' sellers as there are no listing fee's and that's a huge bonus for people who haven't sold any item before and want to test the waters.

I might suggest to the OP that they provide tutorials as such for the users and friendly advice, perhaps even a forum or advice board. I'm sure the OP already knows this, but to attract traffic of any kind (even if it is spiders) a website needs content and links.

Yes i already know this. I am in Google. And im on other things as well. The spiders crawl my site and every listing gets litsted.:D
Not sure about a forum. But i will be doing tutorials later on.:)

laying4profit

Crowqueen wrote: »

Providing content in the first instance also costs money, of which OP isn't going to have an awful lot.

Why do you assume that it has to cost a vast sum of money? You think that by slinging a few £100k into it will bring in more people?
No i wont.
Hard work and determination is what you need.
Why do other FREE sites fail? Simple they all give up after a few months.
It takes years to develop a company from nothing and if you think you can do it by throwing money at it then you are mistaken.

StaffsSW

KChildheart wrote: »

one thing I would say, is that this site would/could attract 'new' sellers as there are no listing fee's and that's a huge bonus for people who haven't sold any item before and want to test the waters.

As I said in the first reply - attracting sellers is the easy bit, but attracting buyers to spend money with those sellers is where the real work is. There are plenty of marketplaces with lots of pretty and well stocked stores, but they are only really showing them off to other shopowners.

I don't care about fees as long as I am selling and making money at the end of the day. And to make money, I need a good !!!!!! of available buyers.

laying4profit wrote: »

And look at what Ebay are doing. They try and swerve the seller to offer Free P&P when in reality this does not exist. Why are they doing this... For the seller.. NO Ebay are doing this because by you offering free p&p it make the offer sound more attractive to the buyer. And IF you make the sale EBAY get more comission for your sale. Remember Ebay make NOTHING on p&p.

You say that like it is a bad thing?

laying4profit wrote: »

This is how or where Ebay is heading in case you didnt know.
The company's eBay Marketplaces business is expected to achieve revenues of $5 billion to $7 billion, in 2011, with a continued shift toward more fixed price sales, a smaller online auction business, and more growth in other ecommerce formats such as classifieds and advertising. To drive long-term incremental growth, eBay Marketplaces also is more aggressively targeting the $500 billion global "secondary" market, which includes liquidation, out of season, excess and off-price inventory. We believe this is a fast-growing segment uniquely suited to eBay's strengths.

See. They will want to be like Amazon.

So there you have it.
Ebay are going to end up a fixed price business only site, with classifieds and adverts all over the place.
The Auction part will die out.

That has been led by buyer demand, rather than ebay policy. The internet shoppers are more impatient and seeking quicker gratification than before, therefore buy it now & overnight delivery are what the BUYER is preferring overall. Ebay are simply reacting to this and making that service more prominent on their site. I've seen the figures, and it is working very, very well for them.
Sellers are getting more sales, ebay are making more money, and buyers are happy. Is that such a bad thing?

Again, this is where I see the biggest flaw in your plan is - the lack of knowledge around market demands and your market. Like any e-commerce platform or operation, what you want to appeal to are buyers, not sellers.

I do wish you well in your venture, but seriously, take a look at the bigger picture with a more open mind. If you only ever look at something with one eye closed, you will only ever see half the picture.

StaffsSW

Ok, who put "!!!!!!" on the MSE word censor?!

s t r e a m?

soolin

stevew8975 wrote: »

Ok, who put "!!!!!!" on the MSE word censor?!

s t r e a m?

Obviously someone has decided it is a bad word and just didn't tell us. Naughty Steve

forgotmyname

How are your servers going to cope with 500+ people browsing? As i mentioned before how are you going to
police the system without paying out money.

Throwing money at a bad idea will fail but not having money to make it work in the 1st place will also fail.

StaffsSW

laying4profit wrote: »

Why do you assume that it has to cost a vast sum of money? You think that by slinging a few £100k into it will bring in more people?
No i wont.
Hard work and determination is what you need.
Why do other FREE sites fail? Simple they all give up after a few months.
It takes years to develop a company from nothing and if you think you can do it by throwing money at it then you are mistaken.

Really??!?!!!!

So all those millions/billions of £ being spent on marketing budgets around the world are wasted?

This single post has been your biggest credibility fail in this thread.



"aaahm oot"...

laying4profit

stevew8975 wrote: »

That has been led by buyer demand, rather than ebay policy. The internet shoppers are more impatient and seeking quicker gratification than before, therefore buy it now & overnight delivery are what the BUYER is preferring overall. Ebay are simply reacting to this and making that service more prominent on their site. I've seen the figures, and it is working very, very well for them.
Sellers are getting more sales, ebay are making more money, and buyers are happy. Is that such a bad thing?

Again, this is where I see the biggest flaw in your plan is - the lack of knowledge around market demands and your market. Like any e-commerce platform or operation, what you want to appeal to are buyers, not sellers.

Can you show me these figures then please?

forgotmyname wrote: »

How are your servers going to cope with 500+ people browsing? As i mentioned before how are you going to
police the system without paying out money.

Throwing money at a bad idea will fail but not having money to make it work in the 1st place will also fail.

My servers will be fine, i have no need to worry about that. Im safe upto 100k if you must know.As i have said my close frien does the hosting and other things for me.
I will police the system just fine thanks, and yes without paying money.