Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

All I actually understand at the moment is: do nothing.

That's all you need.

lemonjelly

PasturesNew wrote: »

I never understand that question. I'd not know how to answer it. Not sure I've ever worked in what people'd call a team .... it's some new fangled word. Years ago we just worked hard, to do our jobs properly, to keep our jobs.

Mumbo jumbo.

So, my answer would have to be: Dunno, what's a team? What's an example of working in a team?

No idea!

All it is really, is saying how nice you are, & how you can co-operate on a project (imo).:)

GDB2222 wrote: »

I'll PM you, as I'm interested, but I don't think anyone else is.

I'm interested, its all good stuff!:cool:

PasturesNew

lemonjelly wrote: »

All it is really, is saying how nice you are, & how you can co-operate on a project (imo).:)

I'm interested, its all good stuff!:cool:

I'm not there to be nice; I'm hard working, honest and fair, fair isn't nice in the eyes of the greedy.

"co-operate on a project" - does that mean "do your job properly"?

lemonjelly

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'm not there to be nice; I'm hard working, honest and fair, fair isn't nice in the eyes of the greedy.

"co-operate on a project" - does that mean "do your job properly"?

Replace where I put "nice" with your "hard working, honest & fair".:)

And yes, it means you will get the job(s) done.:)

The only thing I'd add, is that you can communicate well, & you are aware of what your responsibilities are towards your colleagues. ie I must get X done, to pass it on to Janet in accounts so she can do Y with it. I must get X done by 4pm.:)

PasturesNew

lemonjelly wrote: »

Replace where I put "nice" with your "hard working, honest & fair".:)

And yes, it means you will get the job(s) done.:)

The only thing I'd add, is that you can communicate well, & you are aware of what your responsibilities are towards your colleagues. ie I must get X done, to pass it on to Janet in accounts so she can do Y with it. I must get X done by 4pm.:)

Well, in the world I come from that just means "can do the job properly".

How on earth could you possibly remember times when you did your job properly? The world's loony now.

I mean... examples of when I did my job: every day I went in, every hour, every response, every thought and every time I stayed late to get things done.

Mad question .... was invented by some HR hippy no doubt.

lemonjelly

PasturesNew wrote: »

Well, in the world I come from that just means "can do the job properly".

How on earth could you possibly remember times when you did your job properly? The world's loony now.

I mean... examples of when I did my job: every day I went in, every hour, every response, every thought and every time I stayed late to get things done.

Mad question .... was invented by some HR hippy no doubt.

Shrink it down PN. Think of a particular project that is part of your job & use that.

In example, being part of a group who redesign a brochure, prospectus, or webpage for the company.:)

PasturesNew

lemonjelly wrote: »

Shrink it down PN. Think of a particular project that is part of your job & use that.

In example, being part of a group who redesign a brochure, prospectus, or webpage for the company.:)

As a project manager, the whole job is a project.

As a worker, there were no projects. The mis-use/over-use of the word "project" in recent years is annoying. Before it'd just be "more bl00dy work".

I've never worked with a group of people who do stuff. Most jobs I've had have been me + the boss since about 2002. Not that I've really 'worked' since 2006 as such.

tomterm8

I just replace the question from team to ... company... or group of people.

Basically, the answer they want to hear is:

1. What the problem was
2. I thought about the answer
3. I talked to my boss
4. It was wildly successful, so I saved my boss 15% / made him look good.

"I was assigned to the Big Job Widget Contract, which had been going wrong because they didn't have a clear idea of what the customer wanted. So I liaised* with the customer, and realised that while everyone thought he wanted white widgets, he really wanted purple spotted widgets. So I talked to my boss about it, and came up with a new proposal to supply them with Purple Spotted Widgets. The customer loved it. So we got a new order, and my boss said I did a great job"

It's a formula answer 1) problem 2) Talked with customer / employer / office boy 3) Solution 4) Profit.

* liased = chatted with them over a cup of tea.

It's a bit like in my example, they are not asking the question the words say, they are asking you how you solved a problem and made the company you are working for look good.

silvercar wrote: »

:rotfl: The threshold of what is worth its own thread is fairly low on here.

Oh dear, but to be fair I tend to avoid the main part of the board these days unless there is a nuclear disaster.

PasturesNew

tomterm8 wrote: »

...they are not asking the question the words say, they are asking you how you solved a problem and made the company you are working for look good.

I can only answer the question the words say though ....

I did however save the world on more than one occasion. One huuuuuuge bank merger, I turned up to do a job, sat in a meeting, listened and they were using a technology I hadn't heard of before, so I asked a little about how it worked. Popped my fag packet out, scribbled some numbers and realised .... it'd never, ever work. Completely out of the question. Their whole, dedicated, highly specialised team hadn't realised ... or couldn't do fag packet maths.

I then simply wrote out a new plan, new timetable, keeping to the original deadlines and schedule (geographically, resource-wise and cost-wise) and we did that instead.

Result: spotted early, probably saved £1million and a lot of red faces and national poor press. Oh and I was put forward for an award.

But that kind of stuff seems to go WHOOSH over the heads of people at interview as it's all a bit out of their experience, so they don't understand it. I do tell them! I even show them the award letter (evidence it's not !!!!!!).

lostinrates

I'm being really lazy today. I just can't get going. I think I'm dehydrated, noticed I'm drinking less atm, but its cold and don't particularly fancy glugging water. I HAVE to go and do somethng soon. I did the kitchen and the bathroom earlier...but hours ago.. what IS wrong with me today?