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ESA / Fibro / Want to scream

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  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    Perhaps you should stop listening to stories and find out for yourself?
    Better perhaps to eliminate the cause of those stories.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
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  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    The Tribunal is independent ...
    Who pays their salaries?
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    WhiteHorse wrote: »
    Better perhaps to eliminate the cause of those stories.

    You are suggesting eliminating claimants? :rotfl:
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  • dmg24
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    WhiteHorse wrote: »
    Who pays their salaries?

    The same people that pay the rest of the judiciary - are you suggesting that they are all corrupt? Talking nonsense again WhiteHorse?
    Gone ... or have I?
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    You are suggesting eliminating claimants?
    No doubt the government is working on the idea as we speak. What was that recent article on voluntary euthanasia ... ?
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    The same people that pay the rest of the judiciary ...
    The government then. So much for independence.
    ... are you suggesting that they are all corrupt?
    Now what would happen if they returned too many decisions of which the government did not approve?
    Talking nonsense again WhiteHorse?
    Ah, didn't take you long to descend to abuse.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • dmg24 wrote: »
    Perhaps you should stop listening to stories and find out for yourself? Fibro is a variable condition, plenty of sufferers do qualify for ESA, but plenty of sufferers are also capable of work.

    I have seen a fair few of your posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable. However, a lot of your posts come across as extremely judgemental. I wonder if this could be tempered with a little humanity?

    It may just be your posting style that makes it come across like this, and if it is, I apologise.
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  • I have seen a fair few of your posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable. However, a lot of your posts come across as extremely judgemental. I wonder if this could be tempered with a little humanity?

    It may just be your posting style that makes it come across like this, and if it is, I apologise.

    I agree. I found the response a little harsh.

    I've had enough experience of how people are treated when trying to get help. I scrape by and manage with a supportive family instead. It's hard enough living with this, without being put through hell just to have a little extra help. Stress makes me sicker, I'd rather not put myself through appeals and misery especially when the system is undergoing all the changes and even if I get ESA they'd probably stop it again and I'd do it all over again.
    Maybe when the process has settled down and I feel that I'm going to be seen by someone to be assessed who doesn't tick boxes without knowing about my conditions.
  • Jock221
    Jock221 Posts: 160 Forumite
    edited 30 December 2010 at 9:27PM
    Yes I agree the panels are independant only to a certain extent. They work within the guidelines issued to them by the Government and draw their wages from them as well . I have never been on benefit in all of my 46 years I have always worked I do not get any benefit and qualified for IB when I was medically retired from my job . Incidently I had an excellent record and my file was sent to over 8 Department to try and get a post away from computers there was nothing. The capability assessment was shambolic and when the report came back I thought it was someone elses. Went to appeal I had 4 MRI scans. reports from 5 orthopaedic consultants and my GP all in support of me and just for good measure I saw a Harley St doctor and he gave me a 14 page report , appeal disallowed what more can I do . I have requested a statement of reasons and applied for ESA and this time I will take the forms to CAB . I welcome any advice in this ?





    QUOTE=dmg24;39728806]Perhaps you are fit for some work? The Tribunal is independent, they will make a decision based on all the evidence in front of them. If your IB claim has stopped, be aware that the chances of you receiving ESA post assessment are absolutely minimal.[/QUOTE]
  • Indie_Kid
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    KittyLady wrote: »
    I'm a fibro sufferer too, I haven't even attempted to claim though, too many horror stories of how they treat us.

    Not many people post when they've had a positive award. There are a few on this site who are in the support group and had no problems. Ditto a few other forums I post on.
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