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Tyres Advice please
I have a 57 Micra.
When I got it, it had 2 x Federal tyres on the front, which are possibly now halfway through their life. I recently had 2 new Michelin tyres put on the back.
I went to ATS, but after I had the new back ones put on, a "helpful" colleague said I should have had the tyres swapped round and the new ones put on the front, this wasn't suggested to me at ATS.
Anyway, yesterday I hit a piece of debris on the motorway and ended up with a flat tyre on the front. I do about 20mins motorway driving to work most days. I need to sort it today as my Micra spare looks like a scooter wheel and the braking is quite dodgy with it on.
Will it be more cost effective in the long run and safer to replace both front tyres at the same time now. Or should I get them to put the 2 back ones on the front and keep using the existing Federal on the back with a new Michelin? But there will ben extra cost to do this, won't there? ATS do a "discount" for 2 tyres, plus am unsure of balancing costs etc when I come to eventually replace the Federal. I can afford to have whatever needs doing, just can't work out the sensible thing to do.
I know there are some cheap tyre places around, but am not very good at dealing with these "under the arches" type places, of which there are several round here!
Thank you.
When I got it, it had 2 x Federal tyres on the front, which are possibly now halfway through their life. I recently had 2 new Michelin tyres put on the back.
I went to ATS, but after I had the new back ones put on, a "helpful" colleague said I should have had the tyres swapped round and the new ones put on the front, this wasn't suggested to me at ATS.
Anyway, yesterday I hit a piece of debris on the motorway and ended up with a flat tyre on the front. I do about 20mins motorway driving to work most days. I need to sort it today as my Micra spare looks like a scooter wheel and the braking is quite dodgy with it on.
Will it be more cost effective in the long run and safer to replace both front tyres at the same time now. Or should I get them to put the 2 back ones on the front and keep using the existing Federal on the back with a new Michelin? But there will ben extra cost to do this, won't there? ATS do a "discount" for 2 tyres, plus am unsure of balancing costs etc when I come to eventually replace the Federal. I can afford to have whatever needs doing, just can't work out the sensible thing to do.
I know there are some cheap tyre places around, but am not very good at dealing with these "under the arches" type places, of which there are several round here!
Thank you.
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Fronts wear faster than rears due to steering / torque etc
Put new tyres on front and when the new fronts wear down swap to back etc.If Adam and Eve were created first
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How do you know this tyre needs replacing? where's the damage?
Why are you going to ATS? (or any national chain exaust/tyre outlet for that matter)
You'll be paying way over the odds for your tyre's, they try to sell you brakes, exhausts, shocks and god knows what else on top. Find a local independent tyre dealer or use online suppliers.
Balancing and fitting should NEVER be an "extra".
They only do that so they can make their prices "seem" competitive.“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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Strider590 wrote: »How do you know this tyre needs replacing? where's the damage?
I don't know and I don't know anyone impartial whose knowledge I trust to tell me either
Why are you going to ATS? (or any national chain exaust/tyre outlet for that matter)
Because for a wimpy female ( in this area at least), they are user-friendly (:o again!) and least daunting. I don't know where else to go. Will go and check Yellow Pages. TBH I have never known who to trust.
You'll be paying way over the odds for your tyre's, they try to sell you brakes, exhausts, shocks and god knows what else on top. Find a local independent tyre dealer or use online suppliers.
Balancing and fitting should NEVER be an "extra".
They only do that so they can make their prices "seem" competitive.
I probably know this! Realistically , am unlikely to use an online supplier though.
Edit to add.
Blackcircles supply the Michelin Energy saver 165/70 R14 tyre ATS fitted for me last time. They charge £109.14 delivered for 2 tyres .
ATS charged me £129.61 for the same 2 tyres, supplied and fitted and including scrap disposal charge and VAT. Is that so bad a price??
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I have found a long-established independent dealer in the Yellow Pages locally.
So I just go and put myself in his hands (so to speak
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Fronts wear faster than rears due to steering / torque etc
Put new tyres on front and when the new fronts wear down swap to back etc.
No, No, No.
New tyres go on the back. It's a safety issue.
If you lose grip at the front the car generally travels in a straight line (Understeer) and remains controllable.
If you lose grip at the rear the car will often spin (Oversteer) and generally becomes uncontrollable.
It is therefore important to have the best levels of grip at the rear of the car.0 -
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I have found a long-established independent dealer in the Yellow Pages locally.
So I just go and put myself in his hands (so to speak) or what??
Independents are there to fit tyre's, they're not interested in having a conversation or selling you things you don't need.
You could ask what they might recommend as medium budget tyre.
Decide what you want to do and then go ask for it.....
If you want my opinion.... Lose the Federals (they're cheap crapfit rubbish), get two new good brand tyre's and put them straight on in place of the Feds, leave the two Mich's where they are.
A lot of independants get very good deals on Bridgestones, and they'd get my vote. Mich's are always very expensive. Avon's are good in the wet.
I can't say for sure what you should be paying, I don't know your tyre size.....
Google search "tyre's" go to a website, put your wheel info in and see what the prices look like.“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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Strider590 wrote: »Independents are there to fit tyre's, they're not interested in having a conversation or selling you things you don't need.
You could ask what they might recommend as medium budget tyre.
Decide what you want to do and then go ask for it.....
If you want my opinion.... Lose the Federals (they're cheap crapfit rubbish), get two new good brand tyre's and put them straight on in place of the Feds, leave the two Mich's where they are.
A lot of independants get very good deals on Bridgestones, and they'd get my vote. Mich's are always very expensive. Avon's are good in the wet.
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No, No, No.
New tyres go on the back. It's a safety issue.
If you lose grip at the front the car generally travels in a straight line (Understeer) and remains controllable.
If you lose grip at the rear the car will often spin (Oversteer) and generally becomes uncontrollable.
It is therefore important to have the best levels of grip at the rear of the car.
This is true for most cars but mainly for rear wheel drive.
My front wheel drive cars have new tyres on the front to improve grip and braking - particulaly in the wet - and I don't mind paying for Michelin.
I don't know where you rally but I,ve never been able to go that fast to lose the backend.0 -
I would trust the expertsFitting new or least-worn tyres at the rear
If you are only changing two tyres out of four, whether your vehicle has front- or rear-wheel drive, we recommend fitting the newest tyres on the rear axle. This will give you greater safety in the event of unexpected and difficult situations (emergency braking, tight bends, etc..) especially in the wet. The front tyres generally wear quicker than the rear, especially with front-wheel drive (which applies to the majority of vehicles nowadays). Numerous tests have demonstrated that it is easier to control the front axle than the rear.
This is why KLEBER advise you to fit the new or least worn tyres on the rear axle for :- better grip when cornering
- greater safety.
New tyres to the rear.
We recommend that you use newer tyres for the rear set, for extra safety in unforeseen or difficult situations (emergency braking, tight bends etc) particularly on wet surfaces. Numerous tests have shown that it is easier to control the front wheels than those at the rear. Front tyres generally wear quicker than those fitted at the rear, particularly on front wheel drive cars, which are currently in the majority.
New tyres fitted in front:
• The behavior of the car will change, because the front / rear balance will be reversed. The driver, used to a car with less grip at the front, will therefore be taken unawares.
• On a slippery road, the rear will lose traction before the front of the vehicle.
The driver will have no chance of controlling the
rear, and will be tempted to accelerate further, which will amplify the spin effect. Only an experienced driver will be able to recover from this dangerous situation.
New tyres fitted at the back:
• The handling of the vehicle will be similar to that known by the driver before the tyre change, because the traction balance will be the same.
• Rear traction will be better, and the driver will be able to control and steer their vehicle without a problem by decelerating and turning the steering wheel in the direction of the bend.
That's why we advise you to reduce the risks you take by fitting new or less worn tyres at the rear of the vehicle for:
• better grip on bends
• extra safety.
Information from 2006 Michelin Tyre PLC0
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