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Not Using your indicators?
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I'll tell you what to do. Stop the next police driver or rider you see and tell them what you think of them. Police generally don't signal to move from lane 3 to 2, or lane 2 to 1. Nor do they signal to overtake another moving vehicle on a single carriageway road. It's not laziness, it's appropriate use giving information to those who would find it useful. Get over yourself and take notice of some of the common sense and correct information being written in this thread.
Well I can only agree do disagree with you
It is laziness and plain unthoughtful as well there is a reason there is so much importance put on indicators when you are a learner driver ever heard the term "mirror, SIGNAL, manoeuvre? Not mirror, dont give a crap about anyone around you, manoeuvre is it???
It is laziness there is no other reason for it at all you can try and justify it all you want but there is no justification for not using them end of!
With regards to the motorway I may be wrong here so please excuse me if I am but from my understanding there is no requirement to signal to move from lane 3 to lane 2 or from lane 2 to lane 1 there is however a requirement to signal from lane 1 to 2 and from lane 2 to 3, I have no explanation as to why that is it makes no sense really but hey I dont make the rules.
At the end of the day apart from all the safety issues it comes down to one other thing that this country and a lot of the people live in it have somehow lost over the years and that is common courtesy, you know thinking about your fellow man that kind of thing.
I have always found bikers to be quite sensible people apart from the speed freaks obviously, on the whole I find "most" bikers attitude to riding as quite considerate and thoughtful I am surprised at your views especially considering you are in the "vulnerable" category when it comes to the road I would have thought you would have appreciated the correct use of indicators......................
As said I can only agree to disagree
"You can measure a man's character by the choices he makes under pressure"Sir Winston Churchill0 -
UnderPressure wrote: »If you were taking your practical driving test and failed to use your indicators what do you think would happen? Indeed why do cars have indicators at all? Let me guess you lot no so much better than car manufacturer's, department of transport, highways and byways and they are there on your car as an optional extra! Are the windscreen wipers and the handbrake also an optional extra??
Indicators are not an optional extra. Their use, however, in all situations, is not mandatory.UnderPressure wrote: »Come on people wakey wakey you are all supposed to be responsible adults how can you even try and justify not using indicators! It come down to one thing and one thing only LAZINESS!
Laziness is not bothering to check to see if there is anyone around you who would benefit from such a signal.UnderPressure wrote: »Crikey, I cannot believe what I am reading some of you are either trolling or are you really trying to justify being that lazy you cannot be arsed using them???
I think you need some lessons on how to read correctly, because nobody has said that.UnderPressure wrote: »At the end of the day they are not only a safety feature for you but also for other motorists and pedestrians, there is no excuse for not using AT ALL, wether you are driving in the middle of nowhere or not it should be habit!!!!!
Really, tell that to advanced police drivers who routinely do not use indicators, for exactly the reasons I have already stated.UnderPressure wrote: »I am not aware if it is legal or not, just had a quick google and to my surprise nothing obvious came up to tell me if you could get points for not using them correctly or not anyone know? If not again it is unbelievable really you should be given a fixed penalty the usual 3 points etc etc as far as I am concerned it is a big safety no no.
You appear to understand little or nothing about safety.0 -
Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »Indicators are not an optional extra. Their use, however, in all situations, is not mandatory.
I was not sure on this so thanks for clearing that up, it should be mandatory in my opinion.
Laziness is not bothering to check to see if there is anyone around you who would benefit from such a signal.
The point for me in my opinion is that they should be used regardless, it should be an automatic habit rather than a thought as to wether or not you need to use them you should.
I think you need some lessons on how to read correctly, because nobody has said that.
Maybe I have misunderstood somewhere but if people are coming up with excuses and reasons why they do not use them how have I?
Really, tell that to advanced police drivers who routinely do not use indicators, for exactly the reasons I have already stated.
Just because they dont or rather "some" of them dont does not make it right does it? And I think you will find that Police Pursuit Drivers are "programmed" to use them in any situation.........
You appear to understand little or nothing about safety.
I dont understand this comment are you really trying to tell me that not using the is safer? If you have to question wether or not it is indeed safe or not to use them then I suggest it is you who understands little about safety, other motorist and pedestrians do not have a crystal ball to predict your movements that is the job of the indicator!!!!!!
Again the only reasonable thing I can so is agree to disagree..........................
"You can measure a man's character by the choices he makes under pressure"Sir Winston Churchill0 -
UnderPressure wrote: »Well I can only agree do disagree with you
You should consider taking an advanced driving course. Your local IAM or RoSPA group will train you to a much higher standard. Financially you may get a small discount on your insurance, but the key benefits are a real boost to your driving ability and a better understanding of other people on the road and why they do what they do.0 -
You should consider taking an advanced driving course. Your local IAM or RoSPA group will train you to a much higher standard. Financially you may get a small discount on your insurance, but the key benefits are a real boost to your driving ability and a better understanding of other people on the road and why they do what they do.
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I cannot believe you have just suggested I take an advanced driving course because I use my indicators in the manner they are supposed to be used lmfao!
Does the advance driving course give you a crystal ball so you can predict what other unthoughtful motorists are going to do??
LOLZ unbelievable................................"You can measure a man's character by the choices he makes under pressure"Sir Winston Churchill0 -
UnderPressure wrote: »It is laziness and plain unthoughtful as well there is a reason there is so much importance put on indicators when you are a learner driver ever heard the term "mirror, SIGNAL, manoeuvre? Not mirror, dont give a crap about anyone around you, manoeuvre is it???
How is it thoughtless??? Surely "thoughtless" would be doing it as habit?
Keeping a constant eye on the road conditions and driving appropriately for those conditions is FAR more thoughtful than someone who gets in the car and takes no notice of the world outside....
Reading your posts im betting you also think that driving on chevrons is illegal and that people who use the right hand lane of a dual carriageway are "queue jumpers"! “I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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I disagree. Using indicators out of habit shows a lack of awareness of your surroundings. I drive mostly on unclassified roads and avoid rush hour whenever possible. Thus I very rarely indicate unless there is someone else on the road at the same time as me. It's different when I reach urban areas of course but as it's Aberdeen city/shire it's lawless anyway :mad::D In which case I'm happy to stand out from the crowd by letting other motorists and pedestrians know in advance where I wish to go.
Of course I make mistakes like everyone else but I do try and tailor my driving for my surroundings. The middle of nowhere with no one else around - I probably won't indicate. In traffic and where pedestrians are present - yes.
Perhaps your niece should go on the Aberdeen force's advanced driving course as I know they advocate being aware of your local surroundings and driving accordingly
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Question - whats wrong with doing all the observation and then indicating anyway?
You can have both observation & indication you know.
Because lane 2 / 3 are usually only ever for overtaking - it's logical to assume that anyone in those lanes are only overtaking, and so will pull in as soon as they have overtaken the other vehicle.UnderPressure wrote: »With regards to the motorway I may be wrong here so please excuse me if I am but from my understanding there is no requirement to signal to move from lane 3 to lane 2 or from lane 2 to lane 1 there is however a requirement to signal from lane 1 to 2 and from lane 2 to 3, I have no explanation as to why that is it makes no sense really but hey I dont make the rules.
Only they don't.
I never indicate pulling back in unless it is not obvious what I am about to do, but indicate for everything else (even mini-roundabouts...) - it's a good habit to get into, and you can still observe as well...
Or are you so perfect you will *never* not see a car / road user?Nothing I say represents any past, present or future employer.0 -
Strider590 wrote: »How is it thoughtless??? Surely "thoughtless" would be doing it as habit?
Keeping a constant eye on the road conditions and driving appropriately for those conditions is FAR more thoughtful than someone who gets in the car and takes no notice of the world outside....
Reading your posts im betting you also think that driving on chevrons is illegal and that people who use the right hand lane of a dual carriageway are "queue jumpers"!
It should be habit, you were taught it when you were learning to drive at no time did they driving instructor tell you that you could then go away and interprate for yourself as to wether or not you need to use them, at least my driving instructor did not...........................
The whole thing is really simple, if you failed to use the indicators on your driving test you would have failed, so all drivers must have used them in order to pass their driving test why would you then after passing stop using them? People interpretation of things varies wildly that is why with driving the basics such as using mirrors and using signals is NOT left open to individual thought you are supposed to use them!
Crikey I cannot believe people think otherwise I am absolutely astounded by some of the comments in this thread and people trying to justify not using them, just because some LAZY people dont use them does not make it right!!!
It is like saying to the policeman who pulls you over for speeding "well everyone else was doing it" its just not right!
This is one of the exact reasons why I would love to see everyone having to re-take their driving tests every 10 years, there are clearly a lot of drivers that should not be licensed for the safety of everyone else!!!"You can measure a man's character by the choices he makes under pressure"Sir Winston Churchill0 -
UnderPressure wrote: »I cannot believe my eyes! There are people on this thread who by any standard would be deemed as being sensible logical people right now right here they are trying to justify why they dont use their indicators!! Unbelievable!!!!
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Exactly, the same super smart ones who have x ray vision, 6th sense and sharper minds and reactions than anyone else, ......... or so they think;)I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.
Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)
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Question - whats wrong with doing all the observation and then indicating anyway?
You can have both observation & indication you know.
Because lane 2 / 3 are usually only ever for overtaking - it's logical to assume that anyone in those lanes are only overtaking, and so will pull in as soon as they have overtaken the other vehicle.
Only they don't.
I never indicate pulling back in unless it is not obvious what I am about to do, but indicate for everything else (even mini-roundabouts...) - it's a good habit to get into, and you can still observe as well...
Or are you so perfect you will *never* not see a car / road user?
At last someone with some common sense I was about to lose the will to live!"You can measure a man's character by the choices he makes under pressure"Sir Winston Churchill0
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