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  • Driver8
    Driver8 Posts: 743 Forumite
    Stigy wrote: »
    Sassy, something is clearly not getting through to you here. ALL of the train station car parks that I deal with ARE covered by the Railway Byelaws. That is a FACT. I don't want to come across as anything but sincere, honestly I don't, but you just are not listening to what I am saying. If you drove off after I issued as PCN to you, that's up to you as I have no legal right to hold you there. As I'm sure you're aware from your vast legal background, I as a Railway official have every right to ask you for your name and address if I believe an offence might have been committed, and you are obliged to supply these details.

    If you refused and drove off, I'd simply wait for you the following morning when you wish to catch your train, and report you there and then for refusing your details and for the parking offence on the previous day. Most patrons of railway station car parks use the trains daily. Worst case scenario? You'd evade me. Big deal. I still get paid and am certainly not on any commission.

    I told you, he's power mad ! I bet he loves his little uniform and little cap.

    I'd love to see any so called official with a hi viz vest on ask me for my details, they would get a two word reply and it wouldn't be good day.

    Stigy, you are a very sad little man with delusions of grandeur.
  • Stigy
    Stigy Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    Driver8 wrote: »
    I told you, he's power mad ! I bet he loves his little uniform and little cap.

    I'd love to see any so called official with a hi viz vest on ask me for my details, they would get a two word reply and it wouldn't be good day.

    Stigy, you are a very sad little man with delusions of grandeur.
    Not power mad, but very right, again. No doubt I've helped to secure prosecutions against your sort before. Good evening. :beer:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 141,468 Forumite
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    Stigy wrote: »
    I would recognise the driver should I see him or her again,

    No, I asked how you would know who parked the car ORIGINALLY, on arrival, let's say that morning? You only see the person who collects it when you are looking to 'book someone'. Any contract can only exist with the original driver who DROVE IN to the car park, not the person who drove out who you may have seen. It may not be the same person and it DOES matter.
    Stigy wrote: »
    I'm...a jobsworth.

    You said it.

    Stigy wrote: »
    PCN stands for Penalty Charge Notice,

    Errrr...no, you need some re-training. It really doesn't stand for that at all. That's what I meant when I said you are not a Council CEO. You cannot issue Penalty Charge Notices.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of this/any page where it says:
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  • Stigy
    Stigy Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    edited 25 October 2010 at 9:10PM
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    No, I asked how you would know who parked the car ORIGINALLY, on arrival, let's say that morning? You only see the person who collects it when you are looking to 'book someone'. Any contract can only exist with the original driver who DROVE IN to the car park, not the person who drove out who you may have seen. It may not be the same person and it DOES matter.
    With a bit of clever questioning I'm sure I'd get the truth. It's amazing how many people will either admit that they parked there that morning, or would give a No Comment interview, either is ok in my book. As for the lack of details, well that really doesn't matter what's said under questioning.


    You said it.
    Please don't mis-quote me.



    Errrr...no, you need some re-training. It really doesn't stand for that at all. That's what I meant when I said you are not a Council CEO. You cannot issue Penalty Charge Notices.
    Hence why I highlighted it in BOLD. It was sarcasm....I suppose I should have called in an unenforceable invoice instead...I assumed you'd take exception to whatever I called it so to humour you was the best option. :beer:

    Will Parking Charge Notice surfice?...Penalty...Parking, meh, semantics!
  • Coblcris
    Coblcris Posts: 1,862 Forumite
    True Byelaw tickets go to Magistrate's Court.
    Perhaps Stigy would like to inform us of the car parks within his domain ?
  • Stigy
    Stigy Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    Coblcris wrote: »
    True Byelaw tickets go to Magistrate's Court.
    Perhaps Stigy would like to inform us of the car parks within his domain ?
    Unfortunately that would mean me pretty much identifying myself...:A
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 141,468 Forumite
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    You didn't highlight Penalty Charge Notice in bold (you highlighted PCN in bold in an earlier post but you kept calling it a penalty so I realised you actually thought it stood for Penalty).

    Parking Charge/Penalty Charge are completely different, not semantics at all.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of this/any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Hadeon
    Hadeon Posts: 367 Forumite
    Stigy, I get the distinct impression that you & PACE aren't exactly, shall we say, well acquainted.
  • backfoot
    backfoot Posts: 2,700 Forumite
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    I can see big things happening soon. Head of CCTV cameras, fences and the introduction of watchtowers.

    Anyvon braaakkking ze rules or cwozzing ze vite lines will be put in my little red book. You all are vawned.

    Heil Stigy. Heil. Heil.:whistle:
  • Stigy
    Stigy Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    Guys, as I said, issuing non-enforceable invoices is only a very small part of my job. How does me calling a PCN a Penalty Charge Notice equate that I'm not too well aquainted with PACE?

    There's being aquainted with PACE and there's being a Lawyer. You don't have to know the ins and outs of any number of Acts in order to know when offences might have been committed. Me saying "penalty" doesn't dismiss the fact that whoever is concerned might have committed an offence, does it? :beer:
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