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real1314

Stigy wrote: »

If a person admits to being the driver of the vehicle when it was parked under questioning and whilst under caution, that would be all that's needed.

See, the problem is that prior to this comment you also said:-

"There's being aquainted with PACE and there's being a Lawyer. You don't have to know the ins and outs of any number of Acts in order to know when offences might have been committed. Me saying "penalty" doesn't dismiss the fact that whoever is concerned might have committed an offence, does it?"

Now, if you don't understand that PACE (which governs the act of gethering evidence - you know, your little Q&A session) has nothing to do with the offence, and everything to do with the authority conducting the investigation (i.e YOU) then it suggests you're not really very well up on it. Which is a bit worrying (for you).

The fact that you claim to be able to witch between parking charge notices and byelaws also suggests you don't understand the legal environment.

Contrary to ther posters, I'm not going to suggest that only a PC can caution. However I am going to suggest that you are either a Mitty or you are not properly trained for the role you are doing (you may have passed a "course" - that's not the same).

You should do some homework. Get up to speed with the rules.

Coblcris

Interviews under caution are not the sole domain of the police.

trisontana

Coblcris wrote: »

Interviews under caution are not the sole domain of the police.

On various TV programmes I have seen them carried out by staff from such diverse organizations as the immigration authorities, Trading Standards and the Department of Work and Pensions.

Stigy

Coblcris wrote: »

Interviews under caution are not the sole domain of the police.

Hence how TV Licencing, Department for Work & Pensions, VOSA and UK Border Agency to name but a few are able to do so. Including certain rail staff...

As I was tyrying to say before. I'm not indicating that all I've said here is without error (The PCN thing for example...however I could say that was a slip of the tongue, or sarcasm), but it got my goat a little when certain people were basically saying I was impersonating a Police Officer because I have been reading people the caution...

Driver8

Stigy wrote: »

Hence how TV Licencing, Department for Work & Pensions, VOSA and UK Border Agency to name but a few are able to do so. Including certain rail staff...

As I was tyrying to say before. I'm not indicating that all I've said here is without error (The PCN thing for example...however I could say that was a slip of the tongue, or sarcasm), but it got my goat a little when certain people were basically saying I was impersonating a Police Officer because I have been reading people the caution...

You are obsessed with your so called "powers" or perceived "authority" Get a life.

You are a very sad person who's aim in life is to be a PCSO with the word "police" written on the back of your hi viz vest.

No matter what you say, you will not be taken seriously with your perceived "authority" Period.

Coblcris

trisontana wrote: »

On various TV programmes I have seen them carried out by staff from such diverse organizations as the immigration authorities, Trading Standards and the Department of Work and Pensions.

HMRC being another obvious instance.

I strongly suspect that you already know that there are many bodies that can investigate and prosecute.
I leave it as an exercise to the general reader, not you trisontana, to look them up. Most people are surprised by the extent.
I should add that I do not know of a definitive single source.

Stigy

It worries me somewhat that a lot of members on this forum, offering legal advice, think something as fundamental as a caution is reserved solely for a Police Officer to use. Also it worries me somewjat that potentially hundreds of members who join this forum seeking legal advice, could have read what lots of other members have said, and assume this as correct.

What is so different as me saying "I can question under caution", and then being called all manner of names, to another, more well known member saying pretty much the same thing in a round about sort of a way, and getting "thanked" by the same people who, a day or so later, were saying I was impersonating a Police Officer? I was also going to be/have been reported to the authorities for such an offence, which I find most strange given that I haven't committed any offences. All of this by people who apparently know about what they're talking about. And it's me who gets slighted for not knowing everything there is to know about PACE. Great stuff.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Coupon-mad

I don;t care if you think you can caution people, never said you couldn't. Bully for you.

The important point is that you CANNOT issue penalty charge notices and canot stop a motorist from just making a paper aeroplane out of the piece of rubbish you kindly supply.

Stigy

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I don;t care if you think you can caution people, never said you couldn't. Bully for you.

The important point is that you CANNOT issue penalty charge notices and canot stop a motorist from just making a paper aeroplane out of the piece of rubbish you kindly supply.

I wasn't refering directly to anybody, however certain people HAVE said that unless I'm a Police Officer I cannot caution. I wouldn't stop anybody making a paper aeroplane out of a piece of rubbish. However, should they throw said piece of rubbish, they're committing a further byelaw offence...;)

Anybody who replies to this saying how sad I am is clearly only using their default setting as they're not intelligent enough to put forward a reasonable argument.

Oh, and I'm not saying that I think I can caution people. I know I can.

Driver8

Stigy wrote: »

I wasn't refering directly to anybody, however certain people HAVE said that unless I'm a Police Officer I cannot caution. I wouldn't stop anybody making a paper aeroplane out of a piece of rubbish. However, should they throw said piece of rubbish, they're committing a further byelaw offence...;)

Anybody who replies to this saying how sad I am is clearly only using their default setting as they're not intelligent enough to put forward a reasonable argument.

Oh, and I'm not saying that I think I can caution people. I know I can.

You certainly need a lot of intelligence to traipse around a car park all day dishing out scam invoices, MENSA member perhaps? Yeah right.

I said before, if the likes of you try and "caution" me, you'd get a two word reply which would not be good day.

You certainly are a deluded person full of your own self importance who traipses around a car park all day. What a bleeding job !