ESA - Spending Review

50Twuncle

Chorlie wrote: »

I've been watching and downloaded the Spending Review, the below comment stood out for me since I'm on ESA and in the Work Related Group.

"Time limited contributory ESA for those in the Work Related Activity Group for one year, to improve work incentive..."


Are others reading it that you can only be on it for 12 months and what would happen than? JSA...!!! !!:(

As I see it - for those of us on ESA (C) ie with hard earned savings (which is what the government wants us to do) - after a year - there will be absolutely no financial aid - because the option (JSA(C)) runs out after 6 months - hence until your savings are down to £16k then you are on your own .....
What a caring government we have ?

Indie_Kid

sunnyone wrote: »

You dont have a cow at winning a case against the NHS, people with botched ops/ missed diagnosis dont in general so someone with MH issues dosnt have a chance in reality.

Before anyone has a go I have MH issues myself and ive been in/through the system for my whole life (since birth becaue my mother was mentally ill) and i have investigated claiming against a trust before.

Surely, you can't sue for missed diagnoses? I've waited a total of 28 years for various misdiagnoses. Was told I had something when I was 3, diagnosis changed when I was 4 and it took them until March this year (month before I turned 21) to work out why I had it.

TOBRUK

sh1305 wrote: »

Surely, you can't sue for missed diagnoses? I've waited a total of 28 years for various misdiagnoses. Was told I had something when I was 3, diagnosis changed when I was 4 and it took them until March this year (month before I turned 21) to work out why I had it.

Sorry sh1305, I know it's a bit early for me but have you made a typo or is my maths that shocking?!

Mupette

I am so confused.

Although i am on ESA income related. and support group.
not sure for how long, got the medical form here to fill in by the end of next month.

I have MS, and my brain is totally screwed up. At this present time i am not an asset to any company who wanted to employ me, I'd say more of a burden.
What about everyone else with such debilitating illness too.
The housebound, thousands of us who are unable to work (not work shy, or lazy or scum), But genuine illness and diseases and disabilities, I know i will never get better, but over time (how long? no one knows) i will get worse. I am not on my own, this post isn't all me me me me, but more of what about us.




Are we all expected to sign on once a fortnight.... well i know where jobs can be created, the blinking phone lines to ring up for your benefits for a start.

KxMx

sunnyone wrote: »

You dont have a cow at winning a case against the NHS, people with botched ops/ missed diagnosis dont in general so someone with MH issues dosnt have a chance in reality.

Before anyone has a go I have MH issues myself and ive been in/through the system for my whole life (since birth becaue my mother was mentally ill) and i have investigated claiming against a trust before.

Well it's my decision to try and try I will. My problem would have been dealt with 3 years ago if they were not too lazy to do more tests after red flags, they made me wait 2 months when I urgently needed to return to that department (and only gave me an appointment after an official complaint), then they didn't call me in when the further tests found something. They were neglectful and they are not getting away with it, I have been through UTTER HELL this past year (or 3 depending on your viewpoint) and it was all their fault.

Do you have any figures or stastistics to back up your claim? I would be genuinely interested to see them.

Just because others say I won't get anywhere will not put me off, you can't really judge until you know full details and i'm certainly not airing them on a public forum

Chorlie

Mupette wrote: »

I am so confused.

Although i am on ESA income related. and support group.
not sure for how long, got the medical form here to fill in by the end of next month.

I have MS, and my brain is totally screwed up. At this present time i am not an asset to any company who wanted to employ me, I'd say more of a burden.
What about everyone else with such debilitating illness too.
The housebound, thousands of us who are unable to work (not work shy, or lazy or scum), But genuine illness and diseases and disabilities, I know i will never get better, but over time (how long? no one knows) i will get worse. I am not on my own, this post isn't all me me me me, but more of what about us.




Are we all expected to sign on once a fortnight.... well i know where jobs can be created, the blinking phone lines to ring up for your benefits for a start.

If you're on WRAG Income Based ESA these changes outlined yesterday won't effect you, it's the people like me on WRAG Contribution Based ESA who are effected and will loose there ESA and not get anything else.

Indie_Kid

TOBRUK wrote: »

Sorry sh1305, I know it's a bit early for me but have you made a typo or is my maths that shocking?!

Well, it is a total of 28 years if you count the fact that I waited 4 years for one diagnosis, 3 for another one and 21 (well, 20 years and 11 months) for the other.

Sorry for the confusion.:o

I know i will never get better,

Which is true for the majority of people on IB / ESA.

TOBRUK

sh1305 wrote: »

Well, it is a total of 28 years if you count the fact that I waited 4 years for one diagnosis, 3 for another one and 21 (well, 20 years and 11 months) for the other.

Sorry for the confusion.:o



Which is true for the majority of people on IB / ESA.

I read your post and understood that you had waited 28 years and your age was now 21! Sorry if I read your post incorrectly.;)

MrsManda

sh1305 wrote: »

Which is true for the majority of people on IB / ESA.

Surely it's not true that the majority of people on ESA will never get better? It may be that a large proportion of people who are in the support group of ESA may not get better but ESA is payable to people who have been unable to work due to illness for 4 days in a row.
So claimants may have 'flu, broken leg, concussion... which will clear up within a few weeks but stop a person from working in the short term.

Chorlie

MrsManda wrote: »

Surely it's not true that the majority of people on ESA will never get better? It may be that a large proportion of people who are in the support group of ESA may not get better but ESA is payable to people who have been unable to work due to illness for 4 days in a row.
So claimants may have 'flu, broken leg, concussion... which will clear up within a few weeks but stop a person from working in the short term.

But it takes 13 weeks for the assessment period of your ESA Claim, before finding out which group you've been placed in...

It's very hard to be placed in the Support Group

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf/a/wr_esadescriptorslcwra

Therefore most people will be placed in WRAG, so I think you'll find there are more people than you think are in WRAG that will never get better.