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  • JoeyGrey
    JoeyGrey Posts: 984 Forumite
    Marg2k8 wrote: »
    Sorry - I didn't mean to pinch your idea.

    Marg, really sorry - I didn't mean it like that at all. Just thought that if you were going down that road I might as well tell you what my "dead end" was in case it linked with something you found.

    Some great ideas here - I keep thinking back to the fine way to travel being a narrowboat - not sure who mentioned that. But it just doesn't get me anywhere at all.

    We need a way to travel, that is fine in some way, that has an animal or creature related name and that is somehow related to the Carsington area. It sounds so specific that you'd think it would be glaringly obvious!! :o
    :j
    I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine and he shall be my Squishy.
  • I'm going round in circles :D


    A source of great pain?.. Theres the Carsington Duathalon,held every yr in early october,it seems to be part of the Ashbourne Duathalon,both seem to be based at carsington water


    A fine Way to Travel... very plausible options throughout the thread.Im stuck on the Limestone Way and cant get past it despite not being able to link it to the 3rd couplet :( There was a new branch opened that linked Ashbourne to the early part of the trail,which seem to end in Rocester,Staffs, now but originally ended in Matlock, both which draw blanks for me as a way to proceed ,as does Ashbourne?




    3rd couplet..... Stumped apart from my ramble earlier in thread about Snake Pass/Rd :D

    Still concerned that its a 'Creature' not an 'Animal' in the clue :D


    Meaning of 'pete'? Cant get any anagrams to work in any combination of animals,st, etc, if its not peterborough,or a play on peat, then im really lost.


    The Rhyme and a place to meet???? A nursery rhyme or poem? Rhyme of the ancient Mariner etc?

    place to meet... either a meeting hall/conference centre..ie a building,historic building? or a crossroads/old travellers meeting place/convergance of roads etc? tend to favour a building due to the 1st line of couplet 4?

    cr.... dont think the 'r' is room else why have p room and not c room in the clue? other than that im clueless :D
  • Marg2k8
    Marg2k8 Posts: 5,838 Forumite
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    JoeyGrey wrote: »
    Marg, really sorry ....

    We need a way to travel, that is fine in some way, that has an animal or creature related name and that is somehow related to the Carsington area. It sounds so specific that you'd think it would be glaringly obvious!! :o

    No need to apologise.

    You've hit the nail on the head there.

    I keep googling for Affine Way, Afine Way, Affyne Way, Afyne Way, Fine Way or Fyne Way. So far, I have found a Fyne Way in Motherwell. It was too much to hope that Google Street View might show me a removal van in the street with "Carsington Transport" on the side, but it could be something of this sort that we are looking for. I have also found a Loch Fyne. Anyway, I need to go to work now. So good luck those that are still busy googling.
  • Owl End Walk is in a village, just outside Peterborough called Yaxley.

    Postal address is still Peterborough so I reckon it still counts. :)
  • Hi new to MSE and love puzzles and criptic crosswords but this type is new to me and have some ideas but I'm not sure where to go with them. I'll try to go back and learn from the ones you've done before but here is what came to me.

    I'm totally lost on the source of pain but when it comes to a fine way to travel other than a ship/boat (which went on carsington water but couldn't find a link) the next i thought about was a donkey/mule which through a random link led me to Arkwrights Water Frame and Crompton's Mule in Belper and hence to the milling industry but then I came up blank.
    After that as we are starting in Derbyshire the creature could be The Derby Ram from the song. I tried searching for ram and Peterborough but got no further.
    Have tried anagrams but no luck, p room just makes me think of the pump rooms in bath and back to rivers, water and springs
    The old wood where a man runs makes me think of a river running through a wood
    and The name "Derwent" means "a valley thick with oaks" which to me means a wood.
    On a really random thought the cable cars in matlock are a way to travel.
    wow this is hard on the brain!
  • I was thinking BIRCHinlee at the source of the derwent. not been able to link it to a fine way to travel.:(
  • Hello Again

    Ok heres what i've got. From Carsington the source is Ambergate as that is where the water comes from. In Ambergate there is a Pub that is called the Hurt Arms. The Hurt Arms is the take off point for a balloon flight company which is a fine way to travel and this company is called the Dragon Balloon Company. So I'm going with Dragon as my Creature.
  • reniannen
    reniannen Posts: 9,139 Forumite
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    edited 9 October 2010 at 5:42PM
    Hi new to MSE and love puzzles and criptic crosswords but this type is new to me and have some ideas but I'm not sure where to go with them. I'll try to go back and learn from the ones you've done before but here is what came to me.

    I'm totally lost on the source of pain but when it comes to a fine way to travel other than a ship/boat (which went on carsington water but couldn't find a link) the next i thought about was a donkey/mule which through a random link led me to Arkwrights Water Frame and Crompton's Mule in Belper and hence to the milling industry but then I came up blank.
    After that as we are starting in Derbyshire the creature could be The Derby Ram from the song. I tried searching for ram and Peterborough but got no further.
    Have tried anagrams but no luck, p room just makes me think of the pump rooms in bath and back to rivers, water and springs
    The old wood where a man runs makes me think of a river running through a wood
    and The name "Derwent" means "a valley thick with oaks" which to me means a wood.
    On a really random thought the cable cars in matlock are a way to travel.
    wow this is hard on the brain!

    I'd found Arkwright and Cromford but I never got to Crompton's mule. I'm really not sure about the source of great pain, as I think you could twist a lot of things to fit, but in this case you could say the Industrial Revolution and Arkwright and Crompton's machines were a source of pain for the workforce and spawned the luddite movement.

    I'm also not sure how well linked Crompton's mule is to the Carsington area, he seems to have been based in Bolton. However he was buried in St Peter's church, Bolton-le-Moors St Peter. There's also a Mule Street in Bolton not far from the church. Thought I'd got somewhere as the Quaker meeting house is on Silverwell st, the same street at the church abut none of the rooms correspond with cr and p!

    Ark from Arkwright also fits a fine way to travel but not creature (or at least not a single one!)

    I think that people are too focused on Peterborough as the only other place 'the pete' could mean. There's plenty of places with Peter in the name
    Hello Again

    Ok heres what i've got. From Carsington the source is Ambergate as that is where the water comes from. In Ambergate there is a Pub that is called the Hurt Arms. The Hurt Arms is the take off point for a balloon flight company which is a fine way to travel and this company is called the Dragon Balloon Company. So I'm going with Dragon as my Creature.

    ooh posted as I was typing, this looks really promising!

    There's a Dragon St in Petersfield, The best I can find there is the former Green Dragon Inn, now JSW a restaurant and hotel. The rooms aren't named....

    argh flippin heck I still think we're there my brain's just turned to mush on this one. I thought contunue the rhyme was filler, if it does mean something I don't know what
  • Yep I also ended up in Petersfield at the JSW as that was what came up when i searched dragon street pete maybe there is a meeting hall there or is this where anagrams start?? I tried pump room again and crown as that is what is in my head when i read cr and p room. My brain is tired now maybe tomorrow wil bring the inspiration fairy.
  • Hello Again

    Ok heres what i've got. From Carsington the source is Ambergate as that is where the water comes from. In Ambergate there is a Pub that is called the Hurt Arms. The Hurt Arms is the take off point for a balloon flight company which is a fine way to travel and this company is called the Dragon Balloon Company. So I'm going with Dragon as my Creature.
    reniannen wrote: »
    I'd found Arkwright and Cromford but I never got to Crompton's mule. I'm really not sure about the source of great pain, as I think you could twist a lot of things to fit, but in this case you could say the Industrial Revolution and Arkwright and Crompton's machines were a source of pain for the workforce and spawned the luddite movement.

    I'm also not sure how well linked Crompton's mule is to the Carsington area, he seems to have been based in Bolton. However he was buried in St Peter's church, Bolton-le-Moors St Peter. There's also a Mule Street in Bolton not far from the church. Thought I'd got somewhere as the Quaker meeting house is on Silverwell st, the same street at the church abut none of the rooms correspond with cr and p!

    Ark from Arkwright also fits a fine way to travel but not creature (or at least not a single one!)

    I think that people are too focused on Peterborough as the only other place 'the pete' could mean. There's plenty of places with Peter in the name



    ooh posted as I was typing, this looks really promising!

    There's a Dragon St in Petersfield, The best I can find there is the former Green Dragon Inn, now JSW a restaurant and hotel. The rooms aren't named....

    argh flippin heck I still think we're there my brain's just turned to mush on this one. I thought contunue the rhyme was filler, if it does mean something I don't know what

    Some great finds there!! :T :T Well done!

    The amount of times I came across the Hurt Arms in Ambergate, but didn't give it a second thought, I'm kicking myself now!!

    I'm back and raring to go, so will have a looksie at the next bit! :D
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