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bargainhuntergal

I had an idea for the 'A fine way to travel, but what is its name?' line.

What if fine means narrow? There's a half a mile narrow gauge railway line called Steeple Grange Light Railway that's fairly close to Carsington, it's just to the north near Middleton and Cromford.

I'm not sure how to link it in with the 'You're soon to discover a great source of pain' bit, but I did notice that it seems to be built on something called Killer's Branch of the old line named after the Killer Brothers of Wirksworth, so maybe there's some sort of link there? (I think it used to run to a quarry called Middleton Quarry owned by the Killer Brothers.)

Edit: Dammit, I've just noticed reniannen mentioned this on the previous page!! I even quoted that message too, but I think I was focusing that much on the Eyam bit I missed it!!

Edit 2: On the page about the ZM32 locomotive here it says:

It was built in 1957 as works number 416214 and worked for eight years on the 18" gauge railway at Horwich Locomotive Works in Lancashire alongside Wren, the last of Horwich's 0-4-0 saddle tanks (there were eight of these L&Y Beyer-Peacock saddle tanks built for transporting materials at Horwich over the 18" gauge system. Wren is now at the National Railway Museum in York.)

Could Wren be the creature link I wonder?

Marg2k8

I don't know. You could be right, if we could find the link to the great source of pain, but I don't know.

I can't stop thinking about it, but keep going over the same old ground, thinking that we must have missed something obvious. The clues (that need research on the web, as opposed to anagrams etc.) have previously usually been able to be worked out from Wikipedia and google street view. With this in mind, I have gone back over these and I'm currently looking at the Carsington page on Wikipedia again.

"Channel 4 archaeology series Time Team once visited Carsington to investigate the archaeology and ancient remains in the pastures, where they visited a cave, discovered by Pegasus CC Nottingham, full of ancient human bones."

Could the cave full of ancient bones be the source of pain? Could time travel be a fine way to travel? Could Pegasus the winged horse be the creature? I don't really think so myself, but just thought I would throw it forward as a suggestion anyway.

Now to "the pete" again. I keep thinking that this must be an anagram. As St. is an abbreviate of street, could we be looking for an anagram of "a st the pete"? If so, I can't think of one. Also, as rennianan said, perhaps it's an anagram of for example "Pegasus the pete", although this makes it a bit long to be one word, so would have to be a place with more than one word.

Please everyone, keep posting your thoughts, even though you can't be sure, as someone might be spurred on to think of something else.

ClosingTime

Having a day off Then start afresh


On a side note I searched for an anagram solver on Google earlier and typed in 'Anagram' in the search box.The results came back with the heading : Did You Mean' Ram Gana':D

crin

I have been thinkig about the fine way to travel and the source of great pain. I found a reference to the Wirksworth parish records about a hospital that had a busy trade with lead miners.

This led me on to a connections to Arkwright who built the Cromford Canal to move goods etc - maybe a barge would be a fine way to travel?

I've got really lost now but I found this stuff here: http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/A06W-TOD.htm

bargainhuntergal

Another thought of 'fine way to travel' was just thinking about the narrow gauge thing from earlier and thought also of narrowboats!? Will see if I can find anything to link it!

allthe2s

All
My first post on this subject, so all the usual caveats etc.

'A fine way to travel, but what is its name?'

What about POSH which is Port Out, Starboard Home by ship to India?

Posh = Peterborough

The Frank Perkins Great Eastern Run is in Peterborough on Sunday 10 October 2010 at 10.10am

Sorry.. I'm continuing to add to this.
a 10 k run is definitely painful.

The River Nene goes through Peterborough. From Wikipedia it is the source of the Great Ouse which is source minus a c and an r

The nene river is 91 (which is nearly 92!) miles long

Any use to you?
2222

Marg2k8

Thanks and welcome 2222.

I've just skimmed through your post, I'll have a better read later. Seems like you have some good ideas.

Marg2k8

I've read through it now and whilst I agree that POSH would be a fine way to travel, I can't see the link between this and the Great source of pain from Carsington. I think that this really is the sort of cryptic clue that the cashhunt team use, but I still can't really see how it fits. I keep going back to some of the earlier ideas. In particular packhorses.

I'm looking again at the source of the river Derwent and found this:-

http://www.peakdistrictinformation.com/features/derwent.php

"The northern section of the river flows south from the flanks of Bleaklow down a steep-sided valley enclosed by gritstone moorland. Here it is crossed by the old 'Cut Gate' packhorse track, at a lonely spot known as 'Slippery Stones' - doubtless a spot where the packhorses were liable to come to grief. The scenery in this area is magnificent, but in bad weather this is a remote and bleak place and at one time it was not uncommon for people to die when caught in winters storms here."

If the creature is packhorses though, I'm then stuck, because I can't find a Packhorse Street, or think what the pete might be.

JoeyGrey

Further to Marg's post, I mentioned the possible pegasus link previously and did a bit of googling. I didn't get anywhere in the end that made any sense and therefore didn't mention it, but this is the tenuous link I found - I googled Pete and Pegasus together. I came up with a guy called Pete Terrace who made a record with a Pegasus label. I then googled Pete Terrace and found that there is a St Peter's Terrace in Cambridge's Peterhouse. This just happens to be a conference centre. But there is the end of my trail as bits of the puzzle fit, but it just doesn't all fit together.

As I said, tenuous but thought I'd share

I don't actually think the above is right as the Pegasus bit (and in fact all of it!) is far too flimsy a link, but I too can't stop thinking about this one. Loving it!!

Marg2k8

Sorry - I didn't mean to pinch your idea. I've gone over the same stuff so many times, I don't know who has said what. I had given up where we were and had been looking at the end. The bit about where a man runs. I wonder if that could be the river Aman or Amman in Wales?

http://www.amanvca.org.uk/