Bannatyne Fitness - £75 Cancellation Fee for member diagnosed with cancer!

Undisputedtruth

Here are couple of points I wish to make:

1) It is not morally acceptable for companies like Bannatyne to profit from someone else's misery.

2) There is absolutely no point in explaining to a person who doesn't understand how dreadful a disease such as cancer can be. The question says more about the person rather than the discussion itself. A person with moral fibre would never ever need to ask the question in the first place.

It has also occurred to me that these same people are showing a huge disrespect to the thread starter and his mother by belittling cancer.

OlliesDad

Undisputedtruth wrote: »

Here are couple of points I wish to make:

1) It is not morally acceptable for companies like Bannatyne to profit from someone else's misery.

2) There is absolutely no point in explaining to a person who doesn't understand how dreadful a disease such as cancer can be. The question says more about the person rather than the discussion itself. A person with moral fibre would never ever need to ask the question in the first place.

It has also occurred to me that these same people are showing a huge disrespect to the thread starter and his mother by belittling cancer.

I would be interested to know which posts you feel are belittling cancer??

Responding to point 1, as others have stated, morally it would be a good gesture to waiver the cancellation charge. However, legally, as the OP's mother is locked into a contract they could force her to pay the remaining months left.

In response to point 2 that you made, i think people are very aware of how distressing cancer can be and i think the statement that you made is rather belittling that you try to educate on the matter. It was a valid point that there are thousands of illnesses and diseases that are just as bad (if not worse!) so why would cancer be any different? or is the suggestion to force companies to write off debts as soon as somebody is ill? This would cost companies billions and would put the economy in a much worse position. What is your suggestion?

To the OP, i really do sympathise, and i think that appealing to the companies better nature is the right way forward. I would pay the debt now and try to claim it back at a later time.

EllaKeat

Olliesdad - my very thoughts.

No one is belittling cancer, but as a bone fide cancer patient, I fully endorse the sentiment that we are not special cases.

I do understand how dreadful this disease is, I live with it.

I sympathise with the OP, in exactly the same way as I would for anyone else with an illness or injury that resulted in them being unable to continue membership, but do not feel that cancer is anymore 'special' than any other life changing illness.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

Undisputedtruth wrote: »

Here are couple of points I wish to make:

1) It is not morally acceptable for companies like Bannatyne to profit from someone else's misery.

2) There is absolutely no point in explaining to a person who doesn't understand how dreadful a disease such as cancer can be. The question says more about the person rather than the discussion itself. A person with moral fibre would never ever need to ask the question in the first place.

It has also occurred to me that these same people are showing a huge disrespect to the thread starter and his mother by belittling cancer.

How do you know we dont understand about how harsh cancer can be?You dont know any of our circumstances and , like Zandoni are making up what you think other people have written to satisfy yourself and come across as rather smug with it.


We have ALL sympathised with the Op but we have also given the correct advice. Just because it may be morally wrong it is not legally wrong.

Now get off your high horse and say something constructive or not at all.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

Zandoni wrote: »

I didn't know I had one of those.



You also said that.

Your right i did.. So whats your point?

Undisputedtruth

OlliesDad wrote: »

I would be interested to know which posts you feel are belittling cancer??

Here's your answer below.

mountainofdebt wrote: »

I see that no-one has answered my question as to what is so special about someone suffering from cancer as opposed to suffering from any other medical condition that will allow a cancellation of a membership?

OlliesDad wrote: »

Responding to point 1, as others have stated, morally it would be a good gesture to waiver the cancellation charge. However, legally, as the OP's mother is locked into a contract they could force her to pay the remaining months left.

Bannatyne are not in a legal position to force anyone to pay the remaining months of their contract. Now if they wish to persue the matter in court a Judge will decide whether the money is due or not. There is no guarantee that Bannatyne will ever get their money even in the favour of a court judgement.

The Disability Discrimination Act have been used successfully in the past to null contracts.

OlliesDad wrote: »

In response to point 2 that you made, i think people are very aware of how distressing cancer can be and i think the statement that you made is rather belittling that you try to educate on the matter. It was a valid point that there are thousands of illnesses and diseases that are just as bad (if not worse!) so why would cancer be any different? or is the suggestion to force companies to write off debts as soon as somebody is ill? This would cost companies billions and would put the economy in a much worse position. What is your suggestion?

No need for suggestion as companies have been writing off debts for many years.

Companies like Bannatyne need to apply moral judgements in situations where people are suffering from hardships.

Does Bannatyne really lack business acumen and feel the need to exploit vulnerable people?

Undisputedtruth

OlliesDad

Undisputedtruth wrote: »

Here's your answer below.

The quote provided is a very valid point. What is different between cancer and any other illness?

The Disability Discrimination Act have been used successfully in the past to null contracts.

I will be honest and admit that i do not know the ins and outs of this law. Can you point me to the relevent sections that allow a person who has fallen ill to get out of contracts? Also some cases would help.

No need for suggestion as companies have been writing off debts for many years.

Which companies?

Undisputedtruth

OlliesDad wrote: »

The quote provided is a very valid point. What is different between cancer and any other illness?



I will be honest and admit that i do not know the ins and outs of this law. Can you point me to the relevent sections that allow a person who has fallen ill to get out of contracts? Also some cases would help.



Which companies?

Don't you know!

eranou

Undisputedtruth wrote: »

Don't you know!

I'm guessing you don't either

Undisputedtruth

eranou wrote: »

I'm guessing you don't either

Keep guessing!!!