JJB gave grandsons ipod away.

pulliptears

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

Thanks for answering and be good that your morals are high. As for the bit I have quoted, they were not stolen goods when left, but obtained through deception. I recall keeping the chocolate away from a woman is dificult, though no one owned up on a public forum it was their goods and as they were perishable, I could not hold on to them forever.

I can't believe you are still trying to justify it with this bullsh1t.

1. Perishable?! Its chocolate not fresh meat. It would have lasted at least 3 months as you well know. This is not a justification for theft.

2. Keeping chocolate away from a woman is difficult? I question the women you have around you then because as much as I love a bar of Galaxy I haven't yet stolen it.

3. They became stolen goods the minute you put them in your car, the moment you deprived the original owner of them by not handing them in to CS.

aliasojo

pulliptears wrote: »

Not really. OP asked for advice on a theft, not a public vote on whether it was morally correct to spend your hard earned cash on a gadget for your children.
That one is more for the GDB

Exactly.

:T

pulliptears

Googlewhacker wrote: »

A legal claim for what exactly?

Prove the ipod is the 11 year olds to start with, prove that they gave it to the wrong person? With no Ipod it will be very hard!

Proving it was the boys is easy as itunes thoughtfully remembers the serial number of any ipod/iphone it connects with.

Physio88

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Like I said it's a public forum and people can post what they like within the T&C. You don't like it - the solution is in your hands.

I realise that they can post what they like and fairly so have the right to do this; on this we are agreed. Its just a shame that they feel the need to when it bears no relevance or usefulness other than trying to impose their absurd views on the readers.

Even adults lose things from time to time. Can you honestly say you have never lost anything? Bearing this in mind, should you not be allowed to own anything in case you lose it?

This does not excuse the fact that the ipod was lost temporarily, found, and then stolen.

Googlewhacker

pulliptears wrote: »

Proving it was the boys is easy as itunes thoughtfully remembers the serial number of any ipod/iphone it connects with.

Thats good but how would you do this without the Ipod?

adouglasmhor

Pollycat wrote: »

It may be anybody's business who has what piece of technology at what age - but it's got sod all to do with the issue.

The issue here is that some dishonest scumbag of a woman deliberately stole a DSi belonging to someone else.

This is not a case of finding it in the street or on a bus.
From what the OP says, this thief (which is what she is) overheard a conversation and turned it to her advantage by going back into the shop and pretending to be the person who'd lost the DSi.

I just hope that the old adage 'what goes around comes around' comes around and bites this woman on the bum.
I'm not usually one to wish someone else ill, but in this case I'll happily make an exception.

I agree the woman who claimed it is a dirty sneak thief. The police are being very unhelpful as well.

pulliptears

Googlewhacker wrote: »

Thats good but how would you do this without the Ipod?

Itunes stores this information. You do not need the ipod plugged in to retrieve it.

1. Hold down the Control key and choose Help > About iTunes (Windows) or iTunes > About iTunes (Mac).
2. Release the Control key.
3. As the iTunes and QuickTime version information scrolls, you will see the serial number of the last connected iPod as well as the last connected iPhone's serial number and IMEI.

Physio88

Googlewhacker wrote: »

A legal claim for what exactly?

Prove the ipod is the 11 year olds to start with, prove that they gave it to the wrong person? With no Ipod it will be very hard!

I think the primary route the OP should take should be in a police investigation into the woman who stole the ipod, not JJB who were just irresponsible and careless in giving the theif the item. However, if JJB are unwilling to help and are intentionally getting in the way and preventing justice being served then there could well be a case against them.

pulliptears

In the first instance I think OP needs to get hold of their own copy of that CCTV, then perhaps a sob story with the local papers?

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I don't see why there is such argument over such a simple legal issue.

JJB have done nothing wrong legally. They might have been silly in not checking the identity of the person claiming the iPod, but they're a shop not a lost property office and there's no legal requirement for them to act as custodians for lost property handed in to what might be quite casual weekend staff. Often there is no policy on these things: nor should there be, surely? The cashier's job is to serve customers and they should be expected to use common sense in handling someone passing a lost item to them.

As such, nothing you can do about JJB I'm afraid.

As for the lady who took the iPod, that is theft, pure and simple. She satisfies the mens rea for the crime by dishonesty: she appropriated the property belonging to your grandson with the intention to permanently deprive; and would surely have done this deliberately rather than accidentally as I assume the device has different content and songs on it to the one that she lost.

As such, she is a thief and the police should pursue her.

Will they? Well...unlikely. And as much as you might want them too, reasonably you can't expect them to investigate every case of an iPod getting stolen: they would be inundated!

So, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I think you'll need to take this one of the chin and hope that the police find out the identify of the mystery woman.