JJB gave grandsons ipod away.

patman99

iPods are not toys, they are music/video storage and play-back devices. That's why you don't find them on the shelves of Toys'r'us (or the Brixton equivalent 'Toys we be') amongst the dolls and Lego models.

DrScotsman

I don't have anything very helpful to add but just wanted to express my distaste for all of those saying it's the child's/parent's/OP's fault for the kid having the iPod with him (or just having it!)

Maybe an 11 year old shouldn't have an iPod for one of many reasons. However no reason has ANY bearing on the fact that this woman has committed theft - she has wronged someone, appears to be easily traceable and hence should be held responsible for her actions. The fact so many posters have a "two wrongs" attitude astounds me.

zaksmum, I wish you and your grandson the best of luck. If the culprit cannot be caught, I hope that some of the posters here are correct and you can hold JJB responsible, as I believe from your description of their actions they should be.

gordikin

I thought I saw them for sale in Toys r us last Christmas?..maybe 1 of us is wrong?

lucylucky

zaksmum wrote: »

Don't be so stupid. If you've got nothing sensible to say just keep your opinion to yourself.

So who watched the CCTV footage?
Where was it seen?
How clear was the audio?

Still sounds like a wind up.

Happy to be proved wrong.;)

lucylucky

patman99 wrote: »

iPods are not toys, they are music/video storage and play-back devices. That's why you don't find them on the shelves of Toys'r'us (or the Brixton equivalent 'Toys we be') amongst the dolls and Lego models.

You do though....


http://www.toysrus.co.uk/index.jsf?fh_eds=%EF%BF%BD&fh_search=Apple+iPod+Nano+8GB&fh_refpath=facet_6&fh_refview=lister&fh_view_size=10&fh_start_index=0

gordikin

lucylucky wrote: »

So who watched the CCTV footage?
Where was it seen?
How clear was the audio?

Still sounds like a wind up.

Happy to be proved wrong.;)

At best I think the thread is misguided...given the untruth from the OP?

aliasojo

gordikin wrote: »

At best I think the thread is misguided...given the untruth from the OP?

What untruth?

gordikin

Her son can't phone the police..when he can, but choses not to because he might be put on hold!

marleyboy

DrScotsman wrote: »

I don't have anything very helpful to add but just wanted to express my distaste for all of those saying it's the child's/parent's/OP's fault for the kid having the iPod with him (or just having it!)

Maybe an 11 year old shouldn't have an iPod for one of many reasons. However no reason has ANY bearing on the fact that this woman has committed theft - she has wronged someone, appears to be easily traceable and hence should be held responsible for her actions. The fact so many posters have a "two wrongs" attitude astounds me.

zaksmum, I wish you and your grandson the best of luck. If the culprit cannot be caught, I hope that some of the posters here are correct and you can hold JJB responsible, as I believe from your description of their actions they should be.

YOur quite right, about 1 thing, a woman has committed theft. However this is in NO WAY JJb's fault, as they did not leave the item behind. JJB are in NO WAY responsible for babysitting peoples items. They do not advertise themselves as a lost property complex, a safehouse, a personal items storage depot or a collection point. They are NOT in anyway LEGALLY responsible to even put it behind the counter for the owner. All stores will happily and EASILY remind customers that items are left at their own risk, this covers them from any responsibility for the item (WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!).

Unfortunately for the OP this is exactly how a court will judge who is responsible for their property. Maybe JJB should have said "just put it back where you found it, its far too risky us getting involved, hopefully the owner will return and find it exactly where they left it". However this is an extremely long shot.

Were I to lose my phone on a bus, I cannot hold the bus driver to blame should a passenger find it, and walk off with it. Its my fault, my loss and serves me right for not looking after it better.

A few years ago, my stepson (9yrs old), took his brand new PSP to school, I questioned him actually having such a device due to the cost and the very high risk of someone stealing it from him on the street. But my Ex insisted he has one and it "will be alright", rather unsurprisingly, it got nicked. He did not know who took it, or who had it last (as most kids that age). Do I blame the school for it? Does it entitle him to a new PSP? Or did it serve him right for allowing it to go out of sight?

Unfortunately, as someone has already said; Ipods are NOT toys, I would half expect a doll or a teddy to get lost occasionally, kids will be kids, it matters not if its a cheap Cindy doll or a Limited Edition Cabbage Patch Doll at £300, to a kid its just a doll, they have no concept of value, and will treat such items as they would any other toy they have.

The thief in question should be caught, and with the notion they stole an item from a child (whether or not the child forgot it), she should be hung, drawn and quartered.

But thats about as far as blame goes, its certainly not JJbs fault the child lost it or left it behind, its neither their fault someone else came in and claimed it as their own.

No court in the land would claim JJb were to blame for neglect, if anything JJb did at least hold onto it until a customer claimed they had lost one. They could have just as easily have said "good find - enjoy it", and scrubbed their hands at the very idea of looking after it.

If I left a laptop in a pub, the landlord found it, and someone said "thats mine", I would only have myself to blame for the loss, and the scumbag who proclaimed it as their own, there is NO WAY I could claim the landlord is at fault, either morally or legally.

happywarmgun

Just waded through the whole thing - as others have tried to point out the JJB thing is a red herring. They acted reasonably and in good faith and were duped by a deliberate thief. A theft has taken place. The women entered a deliberate conspiracy to acquire property by deception. Sadly the truth is that you're not 99.99% going to get the ipod back and will have to suffer the loss.

The scandal in your story is the police saying it is a civil matter. This is an outright con by them to keep crime figures down to hit targets. This was a genuine crime - OK it is smallfry by most standars - but a crime nonetheless. It may be that they have other priorities and don't have the resources to chase it up - but it is still them cooking their own books not to record it as a crime. It is no wonder there is no faith in our crime statistics.

As soon as your son is home, no excuses, insist a crime is recorded. Get the crime number. Also, if you want to pursue it (as the police wont) tell your local newspaper - they love these kind of stories and will be glad to show the CCTV picture.

Sorry your son has been the victim of a theft. Sorry our police are so blase about it.