MSE Parents Club Part 14

got-it-spend-it

I am shocked that they made you express and feed Charlotte, Becles. That is dreadful treatment and makes me very sad . My hospital were fab with BFing. I didn't have any probs but the girl next to me did and a MW literally sat with her all night to try and help her.

My son is obsessed with carrying thing. He has filled his bucket with toys and has now placed the bucket on his push along truck so he can push it all around the room :A.

weezl74

Jakesmummy wrote: »

Weezl while you're on please could you remind me the list of things you were told to help fergie along with his speech, jasmine still has a v limited amount of words, im not so much worried because I know she understands me and her hearing is fine, its just getting a little frustrating for us both i suppose, i thought once jake was at school her words would increase but not so far, her current words are mummy(doesnt say this v often tbh!) daddy (says alot lol), peppa (points to peppa pig while saying this), occasionaly says 'who dat' and 'baby', there may be a couple more that i cant think of right now, she does copy sounds, ie if i say uh oh, she'l make the same sound, maybe i'm expecting too much i dunno? but she is 18 months now, thank u!

Hello! I'm sorry I went to bed to watch spooks

ok the tips were

1) use very short phrases and sentences (2 words if you can)

2) use lots and lots of repetition, saying something 20 times while you do it is fine. 'Mummy brushing her hair!'

3) Have a 'set' way of describing/doing something: put your jumper on. Jasmine's jumber! One arm. Another arm!...

4) Name things she is already doing/pointing to/playing with: Jasmine has the red car! Rather than 'look at mummy's nose!' (whilst she is playing with something else) because then she has only one task (heed the language) rather than 2 tasks, attend to mummy, word out what she's saying and heed the language.

5) offer choices and expect a verbal output to proceed (have 2 sippy cups) 'milk or juice?'

6) do not force language when the child is very tired, hungry or poorly, allow grunting, pointing etc at those times, always.

7) make sure all the adults who have regular time with her know about the above and get on board with it.

HTH

weezl74

sorry JM, I shoulda said, our health visitor is only looking for 6 words at 18 months, so it sounds like she's doing fine

SusanC_2

Sami_Bee wrote: »

ooh the anti formula thing really P's me off! there was a thread on a FB group I'm on where peole were suggesting a mum that couldn't BF and was using formula but didn't like the idea of formula (still following?) should use 'homemade formula' they were suggesting mixing raw cows or goats milk with various things :eek: one poster even suggested a recipe by L Ron Hubbard! I'd laugh if it wasn't so scary!

Presumably it was these recipes?

bexta

Becles, they were completly evil and rubbish in hospital and afterwards when Sophie and I had trouble with BFing. I've got really flat nips, so there was a lot of trouble getting a proper latch, so they decided to force her- and I do mean force her onto my boob. Poor bubs was absolutely screaming hysterical to the point of almost being sick, so obviously not going to latch anyways. The 'aftercare' by the MWs when we got home was no better, being told off by one for using nipple shields at one point (it was the only way I could get her to feed)

It still makes me really angry that they 'promote' BFing, and yet all too often it entails just spouting the literature and not providing enough practical support, I know resources are limited, but still. If it wasn't for sheer bl00dymindedness and my mum coming over I would probably have wound up FFing. I'm not judging anyone who does use formula in anyway - so long as you're feeding your bubba that's all that matters.

Aargh, rant over Becles, CAFC is the lady in charge of Secret Santa, she's even set up a very snazzy FB page for it!

SusanC_2

Becles wrote: »

They were crap at supporting me with breast feeding in hospital with all of mine.

I was really lucky that my community midwife was on shift at the hospital the day after Alice was born so she helped me - the hospital ones weren't much help at all and didn't seem that interested.

SugarSpun

ethelsmum wrote: »

E is having mainly formula feeds with the occasional bf (I feel very bad that I haven't been able to do more breasfeeds but I am exhausted and sore).

Don't feel bad, first of all. You may not be getting anything when you express because your baby's not taking a lot yet. There's been loads of good advice for increasing supply, but my expressing advice is: multi-task. By which I mean, lie down with something your baby's been wearing within sniffing distance , pump and rest. Or hang out with your older kids. You've a lot to do and you've already done a lot so make it as easy on yourself as you can. I hope it gets better - please stay around and let us know

Hello and welcome Sir Monster Congratulations! I'm glad your little Thomas is home and well.

The hospital was pretty crap for BFing, I still don't know if they FFed Molly during the night after she was born while I was in recovery but while they had the idea of breastfeeding support they were a small hospital and overstretched. There were two women who never left the BF support room and since there were only two chairs in there everyone else just had to ask and be told to come back later - but there never was a later One of the nursery nurses told me they were going to supplement her with formula because she was losing too much weight in the couple of days after birth and was surprised when I snapped, I'm Doctor SS and I refuse permission for that! I'd have given her formula if necessary, but after two days and losing only 200g there was no need. Still, there's no real surprise that BFing rates are so low.

Gill, banged heads happen and you're not a bad mummy. But if I had to do bath and bedtime by myself before Molly was old enough to stand and hold onto something I just skipped bathtime. A wipe with a flannel on the extremities and the butt was good enough.

Weezl, it's not cold yet here so Molly is sleeping in a cotton sleepsuit and no vest. In the next few weeks she'll get an added vest and socks, after that we'll change the cotton sleepsuit to a fleece one and after that we'll wrestle her into a sleeping bag as well. She won't entertain cot blankets either.

And thanks for those language tips

Becles and Claire, Secret Santa was discussed a few pages back. PM CAFC with your address and details of your LOs if you want to join in and there's also a FB group with ideas in it you can ask her about.

Becles, are you going to get time to sit down and relax any time soon?

I've spent ages typing this, I bet there are eleven million new posts :rotfl:

SusanC_2

bexta wrote: »

It still makes me really angry that they 'promote' BFing, and yet all too often it entails just spouting the literature and not providing enough practical support, I know resources are limited, but still. If it wasn't for sheer bl00dymindedness and my mum coming over I would probably have wound up FFing. I'm not judging anyone who does use formula in anyway - so long as you're feeding your bubba that's all that matters.

One thing which annoys me and which made it much more difficult is that the information they give you beforehand makes out that it is really easy and that it only hurts if you are doing it wrong. I got very very sore and not only was it really painful but it was really stressful because I mistakenly thought I must be doing something wrong. Even if it's as bad next time I'm sure it will be easier because I will be prepared for it.

bexta wrote: »

Aargh, rant over Becles, CAFC is the lady in charge of Secret Santa, she's even set up a very snazzy FB page for it!

Secrect Santa Facebook Group.

If you want to take part, you need to PM CAFC with your address, children's ages and any allergies/things to avoid. Guideline is around £10 total spend on Mummy/child(ren).

weezl74

Hi SS, ferg still woke cold, so we're going to try, vest, sleepsuit, pjs and bag tonight

You stay warmer longer but then after early nov go colder than us right?

pinkpig08

Sami_Bee wrote: »

ooh the anti formula thing really P's me off! there was a thread on a FB group I'm on where peole were suggesting a mum that couldn't BF and was using formula but didn't like the idea of formula (still following?) should use 'homemade formula' they were suggesting mixing raw cows or goats milk with various things :eek: one poster even suggested a recipe by L Ron Hubbard! I'd laugh if it wasn't so scary!

The only failure formula represents to me is how the system failed to help me to BF Chris, I 'know' I could have done it if I had been better informed/supported :mad:

I feel the same about BF Josh. I found it so difficult and didn't have the support around me, and being a first time mum didn't really know where to look. Looking back I also wonder whether I had a bit of PND, as I was in on my own a lot, used to cry after visitors had left and felt quite suffocated.

It's been totally different with Caitlyn. I've BF her successfully - still am. I felt much better about going out with her, the only dampener is the clingyness, but after all is said and done it could be worse.