MSE Parents Club Part 14

gill_81uk

My_Fathers_Daughter wrote: »

I once got slated at a Booby Club for saying 'formula is not failure' :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

But I totally believe it - there is this big snobbery that BF mothers shouldn't 'resort' to the odd carton - I did on occasion, didn't harm my milk production or my baby

I sometimes wonder if I could have carried on as positively as have I done if I hadn't! When T was around the 4 week mark I felt as though I couldn't get away from him and found it so restrictive being limited to 2 hour get outs! I know my best mate definitely would have stopped if she hadn't used some formula as her little one doesn't sleep at night and it's the only way she could get a break.

My_Fathers_Daughter

gill_81uk wrote: »

I sometimes wonder if I could have carried on as positively as have I done if I hadn't! When T was around the 4 week mark I felt as though I couldn't get away from him and found it so restrictive being limited to 2 hour get outs! I know my best mate definitely would have stopped if she hadn't used some formula as her little one doesn't sleep at night and it's the only way she could get a break.

You were right in your first post though, it is not for everyone, and some people don't want to use formula, others don't feel the need for a break...

But I think that knowing that it is an option is a good thing.


FWIW - when going out I always just took me and Benjamin and my boobs - bottles were too much faff! We only ever used them in the house!

Becles

Sorry to hear you've had a tough time Gill. It is hard when you are on your own.

Sorry to hear your news FBB. Hopefully he's on the mend now.

Congrats ethelsmum and sirmonster xx

I slipped in the odd formula feed with mine when I felt it necessary and it didn't do them any harm.

I missed the secret santa thingy. What's that about?

kitkat5566

CAFCGirl wrote: »

KK - Welcome to the world of freakishly long babies born from midgets :rotfl: I'm 5ft an a hair width and DH is 5ft7... Landen is likely to be taller than me by the time he's 12 :eek:
Oh well, I'm be a cute little shrunken grammy when im old(er)....

Landen has managed to last in the car seat of his travel system, we just moved up the straps and sit him up a bit higher in it now.... what you need is a quinny :rotfl:but seriously though. He's growth will probably slow for a bit soon, by which time he'll probs be cool in it upright :A

LOL @ born from midgets! With T's swing we have had to take the newborn padding out and put the straps higher, pretty much from 1st time using it as he's too long! I think we will have to do same with car seat soon. Maybe he'll grow more in width rather than length from now on!

Thank-you Kindof for the very kind offer such a lovely thought and I would love to take you up on it but OH came home tonight with said bottles, otherwise I would have said yes, but thankyou

Re: Xmas pressies; I wasn't going to bother with much but so far we have some silvercross activity cubes (free with voucher), leapfrog singing caterpillar thing (bought 2nd hand for 50p) and vtech alfie bear (bought 2nd hand for 50p). I know my sister is going to buy him something so I wont bother with much, maybe just put him in a silly christmas outfit LOL :rotfl:

Gill: you a NOT A BAD MUMMY! These things happen *hugs*

I have been so confused what to put T in at night, he currently wears a sleepsuit and has 2 blankets on him. I am going to try a sleeping bag tonight, its been between 18-20 degrees in our house and he is always very warm.

Re: relatives buying presents... MIL hasnt bought T a thing, and will not ever I imagine, much the same as EA: would rather spend money on smoking and drinking... but I'm not bothered, if she did buy stuff I know she would use it as a bargaining tool to get her own way :mad:

Hi Sir M good to see you here!

Re: Expressing... I'm no expert but much the same as these ladies suggest; photo of baby, massaging boobs, a good decent pump (medela are the best but I am using TT due to being on a budget), make sure you drink plenty; I take a pint glass of water with me to express and make sure I drink it while expressing, oats r supposed to help so I eat hobnobs with my water LOL. Also express every 3-4 hours, initially you dont get much but it will come, I have had days where I don't have enough for 1 feed then others I can make up 4 feeds :eek: keep at it... and relax while you do it, I tend to read as I am terrible at winding down. Another thing that helps... your baby crying... I found when we had a few bad days of T crying lots I was expressing loads, now he has been better my milk production has gone down but I prefer a happy baby.

People kept saying to me about putting the baby to the boob every now and again, this does help and the only way I can do it is lying down.

Sami_Bee

ooh the anti formula thing really P's me off! there was a thread on a FB group I'm on where peole were suggesting a mum that couldn't BF and was using formula but didn't like the idea of formula (still following?) should use 'homemade formula' they were suggesting mixing raw cows or goats milk with various things :eek: one poster even suggested a recipe by L Ron Hubbard! I'd laugh if it wasn't so scary!

The only failure formula represents to me is how the system failed to help me to BF Chris, I 'know' I could have done it if I had been better informed/supported :mad:

gill_81uk

*hugs* Sami, that must be very frustrating for you.

I think I'll do much better next time and *probably* won't need the spare formula as Im know how much easier it gets now. At that point it felt as though it never would! Plus I'm not as much of a wino as I was although I may have ordered £100 worth of red wine this morning

Knowing my luck I'll get a right little sod that won't sleep and wants to feed all of the time until s(he)'s 12 months old lol

Sami_Bee

gill_81uk wrote: »

*hugs* Sami, that must be very frustrating for you.

I think I'll do much better next time and *probably* won't need the spare formula as Im know how much easier it gets now. At that point it felt as though it never would! Plus I'm not as much of a wino as I was although I may have ordered £100 worth of red wine this morning

Knowing my luck I'll get a right little sod that won't sleep and wants to feed all of the time until s(he)'s 12 months old lol

I don't need hugs Gill I'm over it but that is why I have a hint of the lactavist about me - just a hint mind!:cool: I think that every mother that wishes to BF their baby should be able to and that they should be helped and supported to do so. Whenever anyone I know gets PG I always let them know that I am happy to answer any Qu's they have about BF and I'll do my best to help them out if they do and struggle.
You should be infinitely proud of yourself for doing so well :T
and I hope that wine was a bargain

kindofagilr

Sami i am totally with you on that, i felt like a failure cos i couldn't bf e and i know ea did too with l, when i was in hospital and e was still with me, i asked 7 times for a breast pump and they didn't get me one, oh had to bring a hand pump from home, and he was fed it through a tube with a dummy in his mouth, so when i actually was allowed to actually bf him he just didn't take at all, i got so depressed about it

Morning all, i am so tired, i am feting sick of being the on,y one who gets up in the night with e, i know we can't help it reallycos oh has work, but it's reallydraining, and it's not that long till I am back to work myself

got-it-spend-it

Morning lovelies!

Massive to all those struggling with non-sleeping babies and BFing woes. It does get easier, I promise. I am a right lazy moo and wouldn't still be BFing at 10 months if it didn't. One day I just suddenly realised it wasn't a struggle anymore and it's been plain sailing ever since. Some days I feel like I want to carry on forever, some days I think I need an end point once H is one, but we'll see what happens .

H slept through last night, so hopefully he is getting back to normal after a cold/teething for the past fortnight. He's mega whingy today though- thankfully we are off to see mummy friends though so not stuck at home.

Portsmouth meet people- would the 14th Oct be better then if EA can't make the 7th?

Becles

They were crap at supporting me with breast feeding in hospital with all of mine.

With Josh I was struggling and nobody had time for me. They would just come and shove my nipple in his mouth and walk off. When I asked for more help, I was offered bottles. It was only when I got home and the lovely community midwife came in and sat with me for a few feeds and showed me how to do it that I felt more confident.

James hadn't really established feeding before we got kicked out. He was born at 9.45pm one night and his birth was a bit traumatic as he was born as my waters went and inhaled liquid so he was blue. By the time they cleared his lungs and got him breathing, he was freezing cold so he was put under a grill like thing to warm him up. I was woken and asked to leave at 7am the next morning as they needed my bed!

Guidelines had changed between having the boys and having Charlotte. I kept getting into trouble off a midwife for holding her wrong as "they" say I should be holding her a new way but I didn't feel comfortable with that. Then she said I wasn't producing anything so I had to pump and then she fed Charlotte with expressed milk as she needed to know she was getting milk. It was pretty crap really as I just wanted to bond with her. I was still in the labour ward at this point and got moved onto the post labour ward shortly afterwards where the midwives were nicer and happy for me to get on with feeding her myself and just kept checking I was ok. I was in a little two bed room and another lady came in who was struggling with BF'ing and we sat together and did it, which was really nice. I hope she managed to continue it.

Even though I had a rubbish start each time, I still managed to keep going for a while afterwards. Josh and Charlotte were mainly breastfed only until weaning but I had to stop around 3 months with James as I caught a really bad chest infection and my milk supply just went rubbish.

Off to work this morning with calls to do. Hope everyone has a good day xx