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slow pc should we buy a laptop - advice pls.

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  • closed
    closed Posts: 10,886 Forumite
    post a fresh hijackthis log and commit charge figures
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  • closed
    closed Posts: 10,886 Forumite
    tonight preferably;)
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  • fiddiwebb
    fiddiwebb Posts: 1,806 Forumite
    ed2712

    On older PCs running XP I've found removing Microsofts .NET Framework updates help speed up sluggish systems, certain applications require NET Framework to run but there are not many that do.

    If you come to use software or an application that requires .NET Framework to run then you can always re-install it.

    I would try the other suggestions first to see if can speed up your
    PC first before trying this.
  • Donnie
    Donnie Posts: 9,862 Forumite
    If you've backed up all your important info, consider running a clean install. If that doesn't speed it up, nothing you are doing here will do so.
  • roddydogs
    roddydogs Posts: 7,479 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Bump........................
  • ed2712
    ed2712 Posts: 211 Forumite
    Just a quick note to thank all the people on here who gave me useful advice.

    After spending 2 days on this, including 5 hours on malewarbytes doing one test, I have decided to give up (not fare on the kids either that their mummy is spending all this time on here to no avail) - thanks again to everyone who helped.

    Looks like we will have to go and buy a new pc or laptop.

    Take care
  • fiddiwebb
    fiddiwebb Posts: 1,806 Forumite
    Agree with Donnie up there......what you want to try and avoid is too much faffing around especially if you have exhausted all other avenues and just do a clean install.
  • closed
    closed Posts: 10,886 Forumite
    edited 31 August 2010 at 1:12PM
    Apart from the malware scan which doesn't need to be watched, the faffing around should take less than 30 minutes. There's probably nothing at all wrong with the pc, it has plenty of ram, so reinstall windows or faff around as advised and it will work, and be fast.

    It should look something like this when you've finished, if you've followed the suggestions already given, you should be 95% there already, compare this with your hijackthis log

    Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4
    Scan saved at 21:18:27, on 29/08/2010
    Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
    Boot mode: Normal
    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5\AvastSvc.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast5\avastUI.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/customize/yco...search/ie.html
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/customize/yco...//uk.yahoo.com
    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.aol.co.uk
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) = http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/customize/yco...//uk.yahoo.com
    O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast5] C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast5\avastUI.exe /nogui
    O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
    O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Browseui preloader - {438755C2-A8BA-11D1-B96B-00A0C90312E1} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
    O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Component Categories cache daemon - {8C7461EF-2B13-11d2-BE35-3078302C2030} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
    O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
    O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - AVAST Software - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5\AvastSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - AVAST Software - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5\AvastSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - AVAST Software - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5\AvastSvc.exe
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  • Donnie
    Donnie Posts: 9,862 Forumite
    ed2712 wrote: »
    Just a quick note to thank all the people on here who gave me useful advice.

    After spending 2 days on this, including 5 hours on malewarbytes doing one test, I have decided to give up (not fare on the kids either that their mummy is spending all this time on here to no avail) - thanks again to everyone who helped.

    Looks like we will have to go and buy a new pc or laptop.

    Take care

    So, what will it be? PC or laptop?

    I feel a a little bad now, that I didn't help earlier when you sent me a PM.
    I saw that you were being assisted, so carried on with other things.
    But the thread went on a little longer than expected. :o
  • Zanzibar
    Zanzibar Posts: 193 Forumite
    7 year old pc's are fine for most peoples needs, and aren't slow after a reinstall or bloat removal.
    Without actual specs you can't make that judgement. Here a 2.2GHz CPU with the technology of the day (e.g. PATA disk and PC 2700 memory) will be slow. Reloading is a good idea but on todays web with richer content, complexity and data volumes it will be slower than it was when new. If you never use modern web sites or update anything you may find it acceptable - but that's not realistic.

    Expending this much of the users time to get to something still slow is pointless; and this effort on a hard drive towards its end of life. Comments like '.. should tale less than 30 minutes' is unrealistic even for someone who knows what they are doing let alone a home user who has never used any of these programs before.

    When resurrecting PCs this old there is a cut off spec at which its not worth the time. If you are a geek doing it for a hobby, a student with lots of time, have zero cash or have no real life then fair enough. There are no life prizes for sitting about in front of a slow PC for years - the angel of PC slowness doesn't appear at your death bed and give you a golden mouse.
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