Trying for a Baby Part Six

Kaemi

x_Charlie_x wrote: »

Think ill change that to i was feeling better...

How nice of you to be so blunt when i was trying to look at the positives

Wow, I was trying to be nice and share a positive story as my doctor has previously told me they're advised against commenting on any weight issues as some sensitive people have taken them to court thinking its a judgement on their looks and not their health. So I thought it my friends experience could in any way help someone to see that there is hope then I would share it. She has a beautiful little boy she never thought she'd get, I don't get how that could be seen as anything other than a success, even if it did take her years to get there. My brother is a nutritionist and I've previously had an eating disorder which I still battle with mentally although physically I've been 'healthy' for years, so I'm well aware of the stress being both under and overweight puts on your body, and would never judge someone for the size they are, but it's a fact that being significantly over or underweight does affect fertility.

I'm starting to see why so many left the thread as I do feel that if you say anything other than 'good luck' you're better off not posting as someones feelings will be hurt. I think I'm going to look elsewhere as I need a supportive community where I'm not afraid to talk. I've always found that on DFW and I understand conception is a sensitive subject, but I genuinely don't think anyone on here posts to cause offence they just are curious or trying to help, yet its rarely taken as anything other than an attack. There are some lovely people posting on here, and I don't like to leave as generally there is a good attitude, but it's the only thread I've ever posted on where so many posters are afraid to speak their minds, even if its to help. I can't imagine a genuine poster ever, ever posting with the intention of hurting someone else.

Best of luck to everyone posting and lurking in getting the family you hope for.

x_Charlie_x

Kaemi wrote: »

Wow, I was trying to be nice and share a positive story as my doctor has previously told me they're advised against commenting on any weight issues as some sensitive people have taken them to court thinking its a judgement on their looks and not their health. So I thought it my friends experience could in any way help someone to see that there is hope then I would share it. She has a beautiful little boy she never thought she'd get, I don't get how that could be seen as anything other than a success, even if it did take her years to get there. My brother is a nutritionist and I've previously had an eating disorder which I still battle with mentally although physically I've been 'healthy' for years, so I'm well aware of the stress being both under and overweight puts on your body, and would never judge someone for the size they are, but it's a fact that being significantly over or underweight does affect fertility.

I'm starting to see why so many left the thread as I do feel that if you say anything other than 'good luck' you're better off not posting as someones feelings will be hurt. I think I'm going to look elsewhere as I need a supportive community where I'm not afraid to talk. I've always found that on DFW and I understand conception is a sensitive subject, but I genuinely don't think anyone on here posts to cause offence they just are curious or trying to help, yet its rarely taken as anything other than an attack. There are some lovely people posting on here, and I don't like to leave as generally there is a good attitude, but it's the only thread I've ever posted on where so many posters are afraid to speak their minds, even if its to help. I can't imagine a genuine poster ever, ever posting with the intention of hurting someone else.

Best of luck to everyone posting and lurking in getting the family you hope for.

It wasn't the story, it was the "i'm surprised your even fertile with a BMI that low". It's very assuming and I'm sure you can't disagree it's not the best thing to say to someone after having found out they have polycystic ovaries and feeling low and very guilty about it.

I know my BMI is low, however, I don't have any sort of eating disorder so i'm not actually starving my body of anything. I don't presonally see how it's any different to somebody being very overweight- not the healthiest, but can still get pregnant and not have any problems with the pregnancy. It's also not as easy as just putting on weight. I eat all the time and very healthily, people often comment about where I put it all! My family are all exactly the same, my mum was smaller than me when she had my brother with no problems at all!

I wouldn't say I take offence to anything easily but I just don't personally think it was called for. No need to leave just because I didn't like something you said-am I not allowed an opinion?

bigzippy

x_Charlie_x wrote: »

Thanks Greener Grass. I will definately take it if offered if it's going to make make me ov. What kind of side effects are they?

Incase GG doesn't reply, the most common side effects are gastro-intestinal/digestive upset. Diawoo and nausea being the most common.

Thanks Bigzippy.

My BMI is 15. something so I will have to work on increasing this as well which will help.

I thought it was you that had posted about trying to raise your BMI. Good luck with it (Let me know if you want some of my excess )

ETA: Btw, my friend was a right skinny minny (a size 6, all hips and jutty out bones!) and she got preg and had a healthy pregnancy and bubs is now 5months old. It can be done. And women's bodies are built to sustain babies better than ourselves, so try not to stress too much. When do you see a/the GP/consultant next?

Thanks for clarifying the scary things that come with it. I know google is evil but I just couldn't help it! I was on the pill for about 8yrs so hopefully that's a good thing. I really hope my doctor will give me something to take and doesn't want me to wait

You're welcome. I did the same thing and saw the docs and asked a heap of questions. It'll take you some time to get your head around. I would've thought if you did a GTT and it was normal (I would expect you to have a really rapid sugar response rather than rubbish like mine with a BMI that low tbh) then I doubt they'd put you on Metformin, but I could be wrong. I'd've thought they'd go for Clomid (to make you ov) rather than Metformin (which controls sugar/insulin reaction and therefore knock on affect onto hormone control)...?

I know it's not my fault but I can't help feel bad for my OH. He's been so supportive about it and he doesn't seem bothered or worried. He's amazing

Mine too. :A We're lucky

Ohh, would I be on metformin permanently or is it just while you TTC? I was hoping to never go on the pill again but if it would keep my cycles regular I guess I would have to if i'm not on Metformin for the PCOS.

Afaik I'm on it til/if ever they deem it unnecessary?

Feel better soon

What's everyone upto today? I was meant to work (overtime) but i'm too poorly so going to have a rest

I had a day with OH planned...but my parents peed on my parade with an unexpected drop in :cool:

BB1984 wrote: »

Home alone though as my DH had to rush off to london as his dad is very very ill in hospital Hopefully he will pull through (had emergency surgery yesterday early hours). Not sure when DH is coming home, he's going to see how things pan out.

Hope your FIL is ok BB

Mrs Dave: big flabby bums to CD1

2ba3c wrote: »

If I did, I probably was talking about it because my donor doesnt live in this country - so the earlier I can catch an LH surge, the better?

Any advance notice I can give to my donor, is a bonus and his time is very limited, we were lucky last month to be able to DTD twice, this month only once.

:eek: How on earth do you ship it over in time?! :eek:

sexymouse

Evening all,

Well I woke up with another headache today (think it's the weather), and after my cup of tea, I went back to sleep again for a couple of hours - got up at 11. Had breakfast. Lazed around watching TV, had lunch at 2 (prepared by Moon), then we went out for a coffee (chai latte in my case) at Caffe Nero. We came home not long after, as my headache was worse, and I'd started to feel a bit dizzy and sick, so I went back to bed. Moon and I watched some more TV for a bit, and I fell asleep again. I must have slept for about 4 extra hours today. Hope I can still sleep tonight. I decided not to go to my zumba class, as I didn't want to keel over and then have to get myself home after. Plus, my boobs are still hurting just when I walk, so didn't fancy the idea of bouncing around at class. Moon has gone out to his shooting club, so I'm going to venture downstairs in a minute to pack my lunch for tomorrow and make myself a cup of redbush tea and eat a banana.

Hugs to all who are feeling under the weather. Hope the fact that we've not heard from you BB is a good sign?

sexymouse x

x_Charlie_x

QQuaver wrote: »

I take Clomid, and I sometimes take norethisterone to induce AF:o
I'm not taking anything now though. I'm at CD30 and no ov:o

I still have some norethisterone from before, so I may take it to time ov with mid July, obviously after I emailed my doctor:cool:

I'm not sure what I'm doing next:huh: I'm still TTC, but have to talk to DH about next IVF (he's paying:o). He doesn't like the idea of creating babies inside a test tube, and me taking those hormone injections. He thinks it's a bit unnatural. But I don't care of course:D

I'm doing what my DH wants me to do for now - disgusting Chinese traditional medicine tea:lipsrseal twice a day for 8 weeks - so I'd think it's time to have my way next:p It's all about give and take:cool:

Isn't that always the way:D

You may only have PCO not PCOS. In which case metformin may not be prescribed I don't know.

It's not your fault. It just one of your charms along with your good looks:p

Maybe your DH will come round to the idea of IVF once he has tried other things first!

Have you been spying on me QQ

bigzippy wrote: »

Incase GG doesn't reply, the most common side effects are gastro-intestinal/digestive upset. Diawoo and nausea being the most common.

I thought it was you that had posted about trying to raise your BMI. Good luck with it (Let me know if you want some of my excess )

ETA: Btw, my friend was a right skinny minny (a size 6, all hips and jutty out bones!) and she got preg and had a healthy pregnancy and bubs is now 5months old. It can be done. And women's bodies are built to sustain babies better than ourselves, so try not to stress too much. When do you see a/the GP/consultant next?


You're welcome. I did the same thing and saw the docs and asked a heap of questions. It'll take you some time to get your head around. I would've thought if you did a GTT and it was normal (I would expect you to have a really rapid sugar response rather than rubbish like mine with a BMI that low tbh) then I doubt they'd put you on Metformin, but I could be wrong. I'd've thought they'd go for Clomid (to make you ov) rather than Metformin (which controls sugar/insulin reaction and therefore knock on affect onto hormone control)...?

[wuote]I know it's not my fault but I can't help feel bad for my OH. He's been so supportive about it and he doesn't seem bothered or worried. He's amazing :)Mine too. :A We're lucky

Afaik I'm on it til/if ever they deem it unnecessary?

Feel better soon


I had a day with OH planned...but my parents peed on my parade with an unexpected drop in :cool:

I have IBS anyway and have had the most random pains the last couple of cycles anyway so hopefully I will cope . I'm guessing I might not get metformin anway, i'll see what my doctor suggests to sort my cycles out and get me ovulating!

A few months ago my doctor suggested eating carp basically to up my calories. It just made me feel like poo so that didn't last long. I think the more I stress about my weight the worse it is. I'm happy i eat enough and healthily so I dunno what else I can do. BTW- I'm not even bony or anything, you can't see my ribs or anything, im just petite!

My docs app is Tuesday so I'll keep you updated

GTT? (im sure it's something really obvious!)

Regarding my OH as well, I just worry as well if this carried on for years say it might effect our relationship

Urrghh...i hate unexpected visits! I'm a bit of a clean freak so have have to make the place like a show home before anyone can enter . What I ended up doing today actually...nothing like a good clean!


Sorry AF arrived Mrs_dave x

BB- Thanks. I don't even know anyone with a cold so no idea where I got it. I will keep my fingers crossed that your FIL is ok x

Emsbet- How are you feeling today? You are coping so well, I know I wouldn't x

I just want to apologise if I over reacted earlier, just my opinion and I don't want there to be any grudges or make anyone leave x

QQuaver

emsbet wrote: »

I think it was me who mentioned three times a day when posting a quote from QQ which I had copied onto a sticky on my laptop.

I tested 3 times a day:p

Here's mine from last year +OPK on 17th July 11:45pm:


My chart from July 2010 is:http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/286900/?a=3930636&u=0&

Kaemi wrote: »

So I thought it my friends experience could in any way help someone to see that there is hope then I would share it.

Great story:cool:

There are some lovely people posting on here, and I don't like to leave as generally there is a good attitude,

Don't go! It's just that we are not face to face, so anything written can be taken the wrong way:o

x_Charlie_x wrote: »

My family are all exactly the same, my mum was smaller than me when she had my brother with no problems at all!

My mum's BMI was pretty low, but conceived pretty quickly (1st month for her 1st baby, she gained weight for her later ones:D). I think she probably had PCOS as well since at least 2 of her daughters has it. Her cycles were irregular as well.

Only problem with PCOS is oving. If we ov less times/year, obviously it'll take longer to conceive:o Once we ov, we have the same chance as everyone else:cool:

PMA!:j

x_Charlie_x

I'm such a wally, quoted my own post by accident when I was trying to sort it out...duh

Greener_Grass

bigzippy wrote: »

Incase GG doesn't reply, the most common side effects are gastro-intestinal/digestive upset. Diawoo and nausea being the most common.

Yip, Just as above, Ive had instances of taking a tablet then literally 5 mins later on the toilet with diawoowoo, I only started taking metformin again after a 3 month break 2 months ago, my side affects lasted pretty much 6 weeks, only now my body seems to be used to metformin although i'm still only taking 2 tablets instead of 3. I still have upset stomach at least 3 times a week though, I take 2 tablets before bed and after i do a wee in the morning pretty much 15 mins then the diawoowoo starts, don't ask me why. It also makes you feel sick all the time so SSing is out!

ETA: i notice you have IBS too, So do i, Which i think doesn't help with the side effects im afraid

x_Charlie_x

Greener_Grass wrote: »

Yip, Just as above, Ive had instances of taking a tablet then literally 5 mins later on the toilet with diawoowoo, I only started taking metformin again after a 3 month break 2 months ago, my side affects lasted pretty much 6 weeks, only now my body seems to be used to metformin although i'm still only taking 2 tablets instead of 3. I still have upset stomach at least 3 times a week though, I take 2 tablets before bed and after i do a wee in the morning pretty much 15 mins then the diawoowoo starts, don't ask me why. It also makes you feel sick all the time so SSing is out!

ETA: i notice you have IBS too, So do i, Which i think doesn't help with the side effects im afraid

:eek:

Sounds lovely! From what other people have said I'm guessing I might not be on it anyway if I just have PCO. I'm surprised how bad the symptoms are.

QQuaver

x_Charlie_x wrote: »

Maybe your DH will come round to the idea of IVF once he has tried other things first!

I'm confident I can turn him around:cool:

Have you been spying on me QQ

So you are pretty good looking then?:D

I'm guessing I might not get metformin anway, i'll see what my doctor suggests to sort my cycles out and get me ovulating!

You may get clomid like me:o I ov'd pretty well with that:)

GTT? (im sure it's something really obvious!)

Glucose tolerance test.

Regarding my OH as well, I just worry as well if this carried on for years say it might effect our relationship

PCOS is only a little thing. Don't make it a biggie, it's very common. It's just that not all with PCOS are diagnosed with it. Hopefully, you'll catch your eggy with your next cycle:)