Tent thread

kittiej

Ok I've had enough excitement for one day I need a lie down.

Hopefully the thread will still be here tomorrow, but in case it isn't can you start a new thread and keep the 'tent' part in the title please so i can find you all.

Nite all

Pepzofio

Yeah, night all! (I'm working out of the office tomorrow so might have to wait until tomorrow evening to find out whether or not the thread has survived...)

poppy10_2

Another teaser update posted on the official group an hour ago:

Sorry Steph but the update tomorrow as promised and any further questions feel free to ask on the live chat details will be published here tomorrow AM, we have some docs which I hope will answer everybody's questions but will need to have ...them approved before we publish on here thanks for your patience but we need a weekend too
Just to restate we are not removing posts but certain users hence linked posts will disapear as they are removed. That is a functionality of the site which is inbuilt. If you have any direct questions you would like to ask we will be providing e mail details in the morning

dopester

poppy10 wrote: »

I had the dad's address, but held off posting it in case it got the thread deleted again. Hopefully she won't send the lawyers in again.

Edited because of pm request. I still hold my position though. Anyone wanting to take legal action against me for posting an external link to simple address details, is free to do so. I would provide admins with my full name and address.

Just to restate, the father's address details are locatable from Suzy Butler (the landlord) having used that address in her charity work - on a charity website. And apparently mentioned it in a news article a year or so back.

And it is a very fair point for discussion and scrutiny, with this situation of the ignorant landlord supposedly living in a tent, whilst her lawful tenant with a valid tenancy agreement was living in her home; as a tenants do when they rent property from landlords.

When it now appears her father/family live practically around the corner, in a big house of very high value. And where other news articles show her father deeply cares for her and where he admits he has previously helped buy the landlord an apartment in Peru.

neverdespairgirl

mynameisdave wrote: »

She'll have a tax bill for sure. I wonder if she has decalred her income for 09/10 yet.

Deadline is 31st Jan 2011.

mynameisdave

Just a post to round off the page. I'm saving the pages incase this gets removed and with this page complete I think it time to call it a night.

Fingers crossed this is still here tomorrow so we can discuss the video and webchat.

Chris55_2

On the more general point of a "level playing field" (or "even keel") of making a special case for landlords letting a single property there are a number of points that could be addressed:
The tenant should be able to contact any company providing a mortgage of the property to ensure that they consent to the letting of the property and that the landlord is in good standing with repayments.
This could be done at the start of the tenancy, and any failure to pay the mortgage could be communicated to the tenant.
This would reduce the problem of tenants having to leave after repossession. This seems to be more of a problem now there are more "accidental" landlords... people are letting without proper permission, or financial resources.

Brb

With the best will in the world Chris I don't think giving x number of prospective tenants (what would be the point of checking up on LL after signing AST) info on the financial standing of a LL would be possible. It would be nice though yes.

I'd like to see more honesty (don't splutter out your coffees!!) if accidental LL who plans to rent out only for 12 months then TELL prospective tenants that! don't give lip service to prospective tenants "yeah yeah, long term plans" when they know damn well they are desperate just to get someone in short term pay their mortgage. I honestly feel used when this has happened.

There needs to be more education. Like the ad on TV for LL insurance. "If something was to happen ..... etc". Obviously it's for advertising their own product but it does give a slight indication that rules are different when you've rented your house out.

Maybe an advert with dom littlewood:

Dom walking down some residential street.

Dom: Have you decided to rent out your home ..... ? don't think you're a business ..... ? well I'm here to tell you, you're wrong

Dramatic pose in front of residential house.

Dom: For example you can forget knocking on that front door without permission from your tenant first.

It could go through a few salient points and then end with a website that helps new/accidental LLs.

Good to see thread still here *touch wood*

RecoveringAlcoholic

Whilst we wait for the update an off topic discussion about Dom and TV journalism;

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2638113



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Biffa

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Just for fun, let's blow the tent out of the water.

Had Suzy approached her local authority as homeless, they would have a DUTY to provide her with alternative (temporary) accommodation while enquiries were carried out. (1996 HA, Part VII, S188). So there was no need for Suzy to be either sofa surfing or living in a tent.

Not sure if this has been covered elsewhere in this or the previous thread, but more interestingly if the tenant had approached as homeless, she would have been advised that until the landlord has issued a S8 or S21 notice (as may or may not have been done, who knows), and even when the notice period has ended, the landlord still needs to go back to court and get a bailiffs date. She would have been advised to stay where she was until the correct procedure had been followed.

Meanwhile, a quick phone call to the landlord would have been made advising them of the correct procedure and to seek independant legal advice if they were unsure what to do next.

It will certainly be interesting to see what the update on their facebook page comes up with next.

I certainly hope that the Enforcement team at Brighton Council will be taking action against Miss Butler for the harrassment and illegal eviction of her lawful tenant. Afterall, the landlord seems to have done all the hardwork in proving such a case by having the media supporting the harrassment of her tenant and recording such harrassment for the world to see.