Tent thread

Wee_Willy_Harris

Biffa wrote: »

Not sure if this has been covered elsewhere in this or the previous thread, but more interestingly if the tenant had approached as homeless, she would have been advised that until the landlord has issued a S8 or S21 notice (as may or may not have been done, who knows), and even when the notice period has ended, the landlord still needs to go back to court and get a bailiffs date. She would have been advised to stay where she was until the correct procedure had been followed.

Meanwhile, a quick phone call to the landlord would have been made advising them of the correct procedure and to seek independant legal advice if they were unsure what to do next.

It will certainly be interesting to see what the update on their facebook page comes up with next.

I certainly hope that the Enforcement team at Brighton Council will be taking action against Miss Butler for the harrassment and illegal eviction of her lawful tenant. Afterall, the landlord seems to have done all the hardwork in proving such a case by having the media supporting the harrassment of her tenant and recording such harrassment for the world to see.

In truth, it is a minority of councils who routinely "gatekeep" by insisting the applicant wait for the court order. Most, in line with the code of guidance, start the ball rolling when notice is issued. Of course, a psrt of that will be advising the client of the alternatives available. This will, of course, include the provision of temp accommodation (gritty B+B usually) and the clients right to continue to occupy should THEY choose to.

Reading between the lines on this one, I think what happened was that Carmen had an appointment with the councils housing advice team to go through her options, but this wasn't available until a few days after the S8 expired. As you can imagine, they are busy, especially in Brighton, a town with a higher than average proportion of rentals.

sequence

Biffa wrote: »

I certainly hope that the Enforcement team at Brighton Council will be taking action against Miss Butler for the harrassment and illegal eviction of her lawful tenant. Afterall, the landlord seems to have done all the hardwork in proving such a case by having the media supporting the harrassment of her tenant and recording such harrassment for the world to see.

Can they do that without the tenant approaching them? I hope they can !

Brb

RecoveringAlcoholic wrote: »

Whilst we wait for the update an off topic discussion about Dom and TV journalism;

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2638113



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Now you see, isn't that the beauty of the internet... I didn't know that!

Shame, kinda liked him.

Ok. Same concept - different bod needed. Important thing is that the right things are said.

Instead of spanking the ignorant - educate them instead.

Biffa

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

In truth, it is a minority of councils who routinely "gatekeep" by insisting the applicant wait for the court order. Most, in line with the code of guidance, start the ball rolling when notice is issued. Of course, a psrt of that will be advising the client of the alternatives available. This will, of course, include the provision of temp accommodation (gritty B+B usually) and the clients right to continue to occupy should THEY choose to.
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I was conscious of trying not to post a posting that would take an eternity to read though, but you're right - they could indeed have taken a homeless application and started making their enquiries before temporary accommodation was needed by the tenant.

The sumemr holidays have addled my brain somewhat.....I need to go and lie down in anticipation of the next instalement ....

Brb

More from Tessa http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/08/20/the-dangers-of-the-we-all-think-mindset/

The ‘we all think’ mindset is dangerous because it can lead people into taking action to support things which, if they considered them properly, may not really be things they support or believe in. Or it may encourage them into taking unwise action.

Maybe a gentle warning to those LLs that are being offered/asking for advice on "An end...." ?

Wee_Willy_Harris

Biffa wrote: »

I was conscious of trying not to post a posting that would take an eternity to read though, but you're right - they could indeed have taken a homeless application and started making their enquiries before temporary accommodation was needed by the tenant.

The sumemr holidays have addled my brain somewhat.....I need to go and lie down in anticipation of the next instalement ....

I think we're ALL holding our breath!

john539

When can we see the video, when is the webchat, nothing on Twitter yet ?

This is a total multimedia experience, how about 3D or a webcam conference.

Brb

john539 wrote: »

When can we see the video, when is the webchat, nothing on Twitter yet ?

This is a total multimedia experience, how about 3D or a webcam conference.

Think I saw that mobile voting was coming soon (must admit I LOL'd at that).

Thought the answers/video was going to be AM. No concept of keeping promises eh

mynameisdave

The trouble is the longer they leave us waiting the more details we uncover so the more they need to think how to cover the flaws in the story. I'm sure they are reading this page and revising the story with each detail uncovered.

theartfullodger

Re WWW

Just for fun, let's blow the tent out of the water.

Had Suzy approached her local authority as homeless, they would have a DUTY to provide her with alternative (temporary) accommodation while enquiries were carried out. (1996 HA, Part VII, S188). So there was no need for Suzy to be either sofa surfing or living in a tent.

Possibly not:

I've seen/heard of a couple and a guy in the last couple of months who had been abroad, been "good" UK citizens before, returned without anywhere to live and presented themselves to 't Council as Homeless.. I think this comes as a huge surprise to many ..

Council said, nope, you've been out-of-country, we don't have to help you.

Not sure where these regulations are...

Shame really that Suzy B didn't "enjoy" this process...


Cheers!

Lodger