MSE News: Wheel clamping to be banned on private land

Spartacus_Mills

liam8282 wrote: »

Fair enough, but what is going to be done about all of those that park without permission on private land?

Will clamping just be replaced with something else? Just read towing also banned, but surely they will have something up their sleeve?

Nothing to stop those with private land installing a barrier system.

humbertding

exorbitant

Thats the word. You cannot expect peolple to pay £hundreds if they make a mistake.

That's where the clampers went wrong. And now they are out of a job.

Good riddance.

Sir_Roger_deLodger

ripped_off_driver wrote: »

There will be millions of people up and down the country who agee with this long overdue and unavoidable decision. The world will not collapse when these scammers have departed the scene, as is clear from the Scottish experience.

Hear Hear. This is the best news I've heard for years.
Good riddance to the pond dwelling low life thugs!

UP YOURS CLAMPERS!

[I've been grinning like a Cheshire cat all morning. My boss thinks I've won the lottery or something....]

davidlizard

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Nothing to stop those with private land installing a barrier system.

Except in some cases planning permission will be required - a company near us was fed up with people parking on their land, which prevented their HGV delivery lorries getting in and out. Clamping and ticketing in this case was obviously no good as the car would still be blocking the access. They applied for gates which would have been the best solution, but the council planning department turned it down.

However, the present system of clamping and consequential extortion is not right and too right this practice has been stopped.

ripped_off_driver

It seems the future is bright for out-of-work clampers after all:

http://newsarse.com/2010/08/17/clampers-forced-to-return-to-previous-lives-of-kidnap-and-extortion/

MDE

And I thought the government where trying to cut unemployment!

Coupon-mad

liam8282 wrote: »

What did MSE have to say about parking tickets on private land:"This is about unfair tickets Of course, landowners have a right to charge for and police proper parking. If you’ve broken those rules, and you think the ticket isn’t exorbitant, I’d urge you to pay up."

Yep that's PART OF what Martin's article said about two years ago - but the thing is these tickets are ALWAYS exorbitant so they are ALWAYS unfair (so Martin's article basically tells you 'don't pay up' if it's unfair = all of them).

I notice you carefully cropped the first and main part of the article which says 'If you get an unfair ticket in a private (different rules apply to public tickets) car park.... don't pay it.'

Watchdog also clearly said in May 2010 'don't pay a private parking ticket, ignore it':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

If anyone gets a private ticket they should absolutely not pay it. If worried they should look at the whole parking board here - not just this discussion thread - and read a few threads:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

NEVER pay a private parking ticket, see my signature. Post and ask for help or pm one of the regulars on the parking board, but don't pay!

The entire 'parking industry' is based on parasites who extort money from innocent customers off the back of real businesses. It's a leech of an 'industry' which has always been ridiculously greedy, has now sucked the public dry and been exposed for what it is = a scam.

Oh, and the clamping news? ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!!!:T

:rotfl:

Spartacus_Mills

MDE wrote: »

And I thought the government where trying to cut unemployment!

In this case it is well and truly merited :j

Sir_Roger_deLodger

ripped_off_driver wrote: »

http://newsarse.com/2010/08/17/clampers-forced-to-return-to-previous-lives-of-kidnap-and-extortion/

Thats funny!

HO87

liam8282 wrote: »

Personally, I have said I disagree with the cowboy clampers, but a lot of clampers are working on behalf of the private land owners who are left with no other option of stopping people parking on their land.

This is a very common misapprehension. The existing PPC/Clamper business model has been driven by the PPC's and Clampers themselves NOT by landowners. The financial gains for so-called enforcers is very significant and little of this trickles back to landowners. The vast majority of landowners who now use these so-called services never contacted the PPC/clamper but were in fact approached by them and sold the service on the basis of nil input by them, the landowners, but a small though appreciable payback.

My neighbours and I have been repeatedly approached by PPC's who have become quite insistent that we take their "shilling" (£7.50 per PPC ticket paid BTW) on our small car parks because "as we are the only companies not to join up we'll suffer the backwash". We have never suffered unwanted parking and despite the fact that several other companies have signed up we've seen no "backwash" whatsoever.

liam8282 wrote: »

Maybe if people accepted the consequences of their own actions, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place?

I'd agree wholeheartedly were it that the consequences, in such so-called unlawful parking cases, were fair (in that they reflected actual loses not some arbitrary figure), transparently enforced, lawful and consistent.

The fact remains that at present such "enforcement" is none of these things and to suggest that it is is to be seriously under-informed, at one extreme, or disingenuous, at the other.