MSE News: Wheel clamping to be banned on private land

liam8282

King_Nothing wrote: »

Parking on the wrong person's drive on the wrong day is always going to equal your car being damaged. How exactly does that equal to me saying the answer to someone parking on your drive is to smash it up? I was just making the observation that, that is likely to happen.

Just as likely is the person who did the damage would be punished, and the person who parked the car on the land reimbursed for the damage.

To get back to the point I am making, what can you actually do about people who park on private land?

You can give a ticket, which is unenforcable, so basically you can't do anything.

Unless I am missing something?

peter_the_piper

I hope someone from Scotland will give you the answer to this conundrum as they have banned it for the last 20 years.

King_Nothing

liam8282 wrote: »

Just as likely is the person who did the damage would be punished, and the person who parked the car on the land reimbursed for the damage.

That would be hard to prove though, especially if the landowner said it was someone else?

My car has been damaged on my drive, by that logic since it was my drive, I must have caused the damage myself? It's all to easy to blame local oiks for the damage, but then your likely to be entering into a war with the other guy, as he knows you did the damage but can't prove it, so he just comes back at a later date and damages your car, tit-for-tat really.

Paranoid

[And don't forget that this ban has been in force in Scotland for twenty years without the collapse of civilization.[/QUOTE]

Come on posters - we've been on for years about banning clamping and towing. Finally the government is doing something about it and all you now do is bicker about the consequences. Shame on you.

liam8282

King_Nothing wrote: »

That would be hard to prove though, especially if the landowner said it was someone else?

My car has been damaged on my drive, by that logic since it was my drive, I must have caused the damage myself? It's all to easy to blame local oiks for the damage, but then your likely to be entering into a war with the other guy, as he knows you did the damage but can't prove it, so he just comes back at a later date and damages your car, tit-for-tat really.

Your just plucking at straws, I only used parking on a persons drive as an example, all be it a little tongue in cheek.


Another example then, what if a person owns a small business. They have a small car park outside free for staff and customers. This business is next to a shopping centre which charges for parking.

People regularly abuse this small business and park on the private land without permission, just to avoid the 50p per hour parking charge.

This results in staff and customers of the small business having nowhere to park.

What can the small business do about this?

liam8282

Paranoid wrote: »

[And don't forget that this ban has been in force in Scotland for twenty years without the collapse of civilization.

Come on posters - we've been on for years about banning clamping and towing. Finally the government is doing something about it and all you now do is bicker about the consequences. Shame on you.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, just maybe, people should look at why they are parking on others peoples land without permission.

Yes that is a really outrageous idea isn't it?!

ripped_off_driver

Hear hear for this government. This is a principled and courageous decision and absolutely the right thing. This legalised extortion could not continue.

As for the old parking on your drive chestnut its the same load of rubbish from the same old places. Face it thieving scum clampers. You lost. You are the weakest link, goodbye.

You would be better off trying to get your fees back from the BPA or getting onto ebay to sell off your clamps and tow trucks. The get down the job centre to get a taste of the future.

liam8282

ripped_off_driver wrote: »

Hear hear for this government. This is a principled and courageous decision and absolutely the right thing. This legalised extortion could not continue.

As for the old parking on your drive chestnut its the same load of rubbish from the same old places. Face it thieving scum clampers. You lost. You are the weakest link, goodbye.

You would be better off trying to get your fees back from the BPA or getting onto ebay to sell off your clamps and tow trucks. The get down the job centre to get a taste of the future.

:rotfl:

Nice name, ripped off driver.

Nice way to start calling all clampers thieving scum.

I am not a clamper, nor do I have any association with any clampers.

On the other hand, I don't choose to park my car on other peoples land, when I know it should not be parked there.


Personally, I have said I disagree with the cowboy clampers, but a lot of clampers are working on behalf of the private land owners who are left with no other option of stopping people parking on their land.


Maybe if people accepted the consequences of their own actions, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place?

liam8282

What did MSE have to say about parking tickets on private land:

"This is about unfair tickets

Of course, landowners have a right to charge for and police proper parking. If you’ve broken those rules, and you think the ticket isn’t exorbitant, I’d urge you to pay up."

ripped_off_driver

liam8282 you seem a bit aerated about this fantastic news. You should not take these things so personally. The names I have called clampers are welldeserved and mild compared to their true worth.

Cowboy clampers. That's a bit like saying Roman Catholic Pope. You can't have one without the other. The gross excesses of this bunch of thugs, many bordering on the criminal, are well documented all over the interweb. That is why they are now suddenly facing having to get a real job for the first time in their parasitic lives.

There will be millions of people up and down the country who agee with this long overdue and unavoidable decision. The world will not collapse when these scammers have departed the scene, as is clear from the Scottish experience.

As for MSE Martin's advice it was well intentioned but experience has shown that that by far the better course is just to ignore. Thousands who have sought advice on here will tell you as much.