Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard... aka Vista Killer

newfoundglory

Mac Pro - 2 x Dual-Core Intel Xeon 3Ghz, supporting up to 16Gb of memory, 2Tb of hd and 4 graphics cards. Even the basic £1700 machine has support for up to 16gb ram and 2tb of hd, and space for new graphics cards in the future...

Show me one place where you can buy a machine like this, at this price. I even doubt whether you could build one of these machines yourself.... since getting hold of that type of mobo to support that amount of ram will be a !!!!!!! in itself.

Not to mention the fact it was shown recently that the Mac Pro and OSX will take 2 x 4-core Xeons. Thats 8 bloody cores! Does Windows even support that many!? Does Windows even support 16gb of RAM?

Oh dear, i'm getting that Deja Vu feeling again.... "just wait for Vista... blah blah blah".

Apple hardware is in a totally different LEAGUE to the rest of the PC industry. And yes, i'd much rather have an argument about how crap Java is!

woo

whotook316 wrote:

Arguing with Apple fanboys is bad for your health - give up already.

Depends on how seriously you take it, sometimes it's a case of light the blue touch paper stand well back and smile at the pretty fireworks as they self combust.

See above for proof

sco0ter

And all that power can be used doing what????

looks like this is turning into a "my dads bigger than your dad" type fight...

If you are going to argue use the most support, upgradability, ease of use, compatability type scenario.... whats the point of having power like that if 50% of the software you want to use wont work

wolfman

newfoundglory wrote:

Mac Pro - 2 x Dual-Core Intel Xeon 3Ghz, supporting up to 16Gb of memory, 2Tb of hd and 4 graphics cards. Even the basic £1700 machine has support for up to 16gb ram and 2tb of hd, and space for new graphics cards in the future...

Firstly, that's a workstation, not a personal machine! It's not designed for home use, but development.

And you mention the future, but by the time you do want to fill it with 16gb of Ram, it'll be dated, and you'll have a new machine anyway. And if you did want to fill it with 16gb of Ram now, it'd cost a fortune and the performance gain wouldn't be huge.

newfoundglory wrote:

Show me one place where you can buy a machine like this, at this price. I even doubt whether you could build one of these machines yourself.... since getting hold of that type of mobo to support that amount of ram will be a !!!!!!! in itself.

Of course you can. My 2 year old MSI board supports 8gb of ram, so 16gb shouldn't be that difficult considering it's just come out. Go on the Dell website (I'm no fan of Dells but as an example) and you'll find you can build something better for about the same price.

The Mac Pro gets some impressive write ups. I personally find it overkill and slightly inbalanced. And also, adding 1gb of Ram costs £200!!! Same with the Apple tft's which actually use the same panels as the Dells, but look how much more they cost. The white finish must cost £200 more.

tr3mor

wolfman wrote:

The Mac Pro gets some impressive write ups. I personally find it overkill and slightly inbalanced. And also, adding 1gb of Ram costs £200!!! Same with the Apple tft's which actually use the same panels as the Dells, but look how much more they cost. The white finish must cost £200 more.

Steve Jobs paints them with his own fair hands

superscaper

tr3mor wrote:

Steve Jobs paints them with his own fair hands

ROFL

It always amuses me when the fanboys start accusing MS of copying (which might or might not be true) when there's actually nothing original in Macs. They just package things nicely and give nice looking interfaces to things.

manutd_2

the only fair way to settle the mac vs pc debate is to get steve jobs and bill gates to fight.

i reckon steve will bash gates with his 24 inch imac, however gates will come out as winner by drowning jobs with his money.

millypede

I have to say that out of the amount of customers we serve each day, we get a variation of both current mac users, and switchers, and the thing the !!!!!!' people off the most virus, and crashing windows. The costs of finding a equivilant PC with the same level of software in the box, and the design of the machine, of you look at the iMacs is hard to find, even the sony stuff is still £300 more expensive.
Apple are doing this right and they are climbing up that ladder, and switching people daily, its about what the end user is conferrable with and what the end use will be, there will always be a need for both Windows and Macs, and each Windows Fan boy and Mac Fan boy will always say what is best for them, but what is best for them is not always best for others.

Oh and superscraper, yeah there are a few things Apple have done ahead of Microsoft, but lets not go down that route hey... *cough*Zune*cough*

wolfman

millypede wrote:

Oh and superscraper, yeah there are a few things Apple have done ahead of Microsoft, but lets not go down that route hey... *cough*Zune*cough*

As long as it provides good competition, the consumer can only benefit.

I think with regards to viruses, etc... as Apple get bigger it only increases the chance that they'll become more common. Apple and Microsoft make it very easy to hate either of them.

superscaper

millypede wrote:

Oh and superscraper, yeah there are a few things Apple have done ahead of Microsoft, but lets not go down that route hey... *cough*Zune*cough*

I don't doubt Microsoft have seen what Apple have done and thought "hey lets do that", that's business for you but I wouldn't say that Apple have actually originated the ideas themselves. *cough*Zen*cough*Iconbar*cough*keepsafe*cough*
Konfabulator*cough