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No longer entitled to income support as partner working 24 or more hours per week?

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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    So he is doing voluntary work, unpaid, so employers can see the person, not judge him on a disability.
    Munchie
    First class advice. :T
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    hoo wrote: »
    There you go dmg24! Anyway i'm not going to get in to a heckling match

    Again, where does she say that aspies cannot hold a conversation? Do you have any idea of what telesales involves?
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  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    hoo, if you are going to edit your posts after I have responded, at least make them legible!
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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    hoo wrote: »
    Never said she said for him to keep claimig benefits. But why shouldn't an AS sufferer do telesales? A job, any job is better than claiming benefits.
    There you go dmg24! Anyway i'm not going to get in to a heckling match
    AS= Communication problems.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • hoo
    hoo Posts: 150 Forumite
    oh indeed i do know exactly what telesales involves I did it for a year for a well known glazing company whilst I was at college, amongst other jobs some were voluntary so I didn't get paid at all but it was all good experience and I met some fab people along the way.

    As far as my editing, I appologise if it wasn't properly done but there are bigger things in the world to worry about other than whether my Quote has a little box round it! :D
  • hoo
    hoo Posts: 150 Forumite
    some AS sufferers have communication problems it doesn't apply to all who have the condition
  • kingfisherblue
    kingfisherblue Posts: 9,203 Forumite
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    Some posters have suggested that the OP applies for DLA, but this is only paid if somebody has care and/or mobility needs. The OP has not mentioned either of these.
  • wantsajob
    wantsajob Posts: 705 Forumite
    edited 9 August 2010 at 9:20PM
    dmg24 wrote: »
    This is only discrimination if you make them aware of your condition and they fail to make reasonable adaptations. In this instance it may be suitable to allow you to go straight to interview, rather than completing the psychometric testing.
    Nearly all jobs ask for good communication and teak work skills, even if the job itself does not necessarily need those skills, so even job adverts themselves discriminate against people with conditions such as AS.

    It seems few people understand and appreciate what AS is. As helpful as information such as http://www.autism.org.uk/our-services/employment-support/prospects-for-employers/support-for-employers/employer-factsheet-what-is-an-asd.aspx and http://www.autism.org.uk/our-services/employment-support/prospects-for-employers/support-for-employers/employer-factsheet-managing-someone-with-an-asd.aspx may be I doubt employers have the time to be bothered reading or caring when their primary goal is to fill a position with the best employee possible. I have posted the links here, I doubt few people will be bothered to read them but are all too happy to get on the you're able to work so get yourself a job with a magic wand band wagon.

    I suspect employers are also unable to envisage what types of reasonable adjustments they could make. They have preconceived ideas that social skills are essential (hence nearly all jobs stating they're essential). I can only come up with the following adjustments. If they assess skills related to my disability such as communication/team work they should be done so to a "meets expectations" level (employers may disagree that this is a reasonable adjustment as they would argue the skills are essential, but court proceedings from a tribunal (Hewett v Motorola) state this would be reasonable). Any tasks needing those skills could be assigned to another employee in return for me taking a share of some of their work. I could be placed in a more quiet environment if possible. I could be given written instructions, e.g. via e-mail, instead of verbally. If I find meetings difficult, a written summary of all pertinent information may suffice. A work trial may be more suitable than an interview (although employers unfortunately see the interview as the defacto magic standard).

    I wish I could have this rosy view that everyone seems to have of the world, where everything works as it should and there's no problems - and disabled people are given a fair chance. I have never experienced it myself and life feels like one piece of crap after another. One of the few good things that's happened is I achieved a first class degree, but that has no meaning if it does not help me get a job afterwards - students in seats means money for the university. When it comes to giving me a job and the money getting my way it's a different story. (Before anyone makes the error of assuming so I'm not only applying for jobs where my degree would be useful, although I suspect it is an hindrance with unskilled/supermarket type jobs - but if I don't mention it then I look like a complete no-hoper).

    All I want is a job, someone to accept me as an employee. I know I would make a great employee, and would probably have made a better employee than some of the people employers chose above me at interview. Employers are too stupid to be able to see beyond the disability that becomes obvious in the interview, and see it as shyness/social ineptness and something I need to magically overcome in order to appease them, rather than a disability.
    Wanted a job, now have one. :beer:
  • Duncombe
    Duncombe Posts: 509 Forumite
    OP - your last post did not put you in a good light.

    I have disabled family and know the difficulty my brother in particular faced in getting a job. He has downs syndrome, but has worked for Somerfield in the same store for the last 15 years. Not once has he ever phoned in sick, been late for a shift or faced any diciplinary action. He is, to all intents and purposes, a model employee.

    From all the information you have provided, and the elements of your personality you have shown, it would seem that it is YOU with the problem and not the various employers you claim to have approached. Perhaps you are not applying for jobs to which you are not suited? Or maybe your 1st class degree has made you a little too self assured?

    Either way, it is time to stop blaming others and start trying to be PROACTIVE about the situation you are faced with.
  • Indie_Kid
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    wantsajob wrote: »
    Nearly all jobs ask for good communication and teak work skills, even if the job itself does not necessarily need those skills, so even job adverts themselves discriminate against people with conditions such as AS.

    They don't. it's like me claiming taxi companies are discriminating against me because I don't (due to medical reasons) have a driving licence.

    There is a reason why some jobs ask for these skills. I went for a job interview a few weeks ago. I got told there and then "we don't think you're suitable for the job; due to your communication difficulties" - this is not discrimination. Communication was what ther job entailed a lot. (I can't physically look straight ahead and have serious issues with people looking at me)
    Any tasks needing those skills could be assigned to another employee in return for me taking a share of some of their work.

    Even if the job is 99.9% communication based?

    I think you're confusing "discrimination" with "unsuitable for the job".
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