No longer entitled to income support as partner working 24 or more hours per week?

wantsajob

sh1305 wrote: »

They have good reson to ask about disability. May not apply to you as such; but there are some disabled people out there who need resonable adjustments when it comes to interviews.

You clearly misunderstood the point I was making. The section of the form I refer to does not mention disability. ASDA's application form has a section with some psychometric questions. They ask whether you are shy/outgoing and if you work well with other people and so on. These questions discriminate against me as they relate to my disability as my disability means I have social difficulties. I am shy and do not work well with others, this is due to my disability, and if they choose who to employ on the basis of those questions then discrimination has occurred.

wantsajob

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

The fact that you have difficulty finding work is totally irrelevant to you ability to claim incapacity benefits. I imagine that you will need to look for work once you are switched to ESA.

I think you are mistaken sir. I have been looking for work without success as I previously mentioned. Could you please explain how someone is able to work if they are not able to get a job? There seems to be some sort of failure in your logic somewhere.

And no ESA won't help here either as the conditions are the same as IS - i.e. if I have a partner working 24 or more hours a week then that's it.

dmg24

wantsajob wrote: »

Apparently in my area it is the New Deal for Disabled People http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/Employmentsupport/WorkSchemesAndProgrammes/DG_4001963 and the job brokers are Shaw Trust and SEETEC (both quite a distance from me). The support seems to be more geared towards improving interview skills, and providing work experience. Sadly none of the bumf anywhere says they can do positive discrimination and actually just hand you a job, which is what I'd like TBH. I would again be relying on finding an understanding employer, who can see through my difficulties in the interview, which I haven't managed to yet. Unless the schemes can hand a job to me I doubt I would find much benefit from them, but will give them a try (although travel costs may be an issue if no funding for that).

No one is going to hand you a job, but work experience will get you a foot in the door.

You are not going to get special treatment because of your condition, though the Shaw Trust (who are probably the best of all the providers) will ensure you are put on an even playing field to non disabled applicants.

wantsajob wrote: »

You clearly misunderstood the point I was making. The section of the form I refer to does not mention disability. ASDA's application form has a section with some psychometric questions. They ask whether you are shy/outgoing and if you work well with other people and so on. These questions discriminate against me as they relate to my disability as my disability means I have social difficulties.

This is only discrimination if you make them aware of your condition and they fail to make reasonable adaptations. In this instance it may be suitable to allow you to go straight to interview, rather than completing the psychometric testing.

dmg24

wantsajob wrote: »

I think you are mistaken sir. I have been looking for work without success as I previously mentioned. Could you please explain how someone is able to work if they are not able to get a job? There seems to be some sort of failure in your logic somewhere.

And no ESA won't help here either as the conditions are the same as IS - i.e. if I have a partner working 24 or more hours a week then that's it.

Oldernotwiser is spot on. All because you have difficulty finding work, it does not mean that you are unemployable, and it certainly does not mean that you are incapable of work.

Lady_gaga

wantsajob wrote: »

I think you are mistaken sir. I have been looking for work without success as I previously mentioned. Could you please explain how someone is able to work if they are not able to get a job? There seems to be some sort of failure in your logic somewhere.

And no ESA won't help here either as the conditions are the same as IS - i.e. if I have a partner working 24 or more hours a week then that's it.

People are on JSA as they are fit for work but haven't got a job at the present time, does that not apply to you as well?

You might be better off going on conts based JSA, it's paid for up to 6 months and you would get help/training in trying to find a job...

lauren_1

Why are you certain you claim for DLA would be turned down? Sounds like you have not even tried to help yourself, effort is required!

hoo

Hi
Have you tried looking at info about the DDA as it's illegal for employers to discriminate against people with conditions listed when it comes to employment.
My colleague has a 32 yr old son with AS and he is in employment. He spoke to the disabled peoples employment officer at the job centre and they found him a job in a recycling centre where he doesn't come face to face with people as this is what makes him uncomfortable. Have you tried something like telesales? Not glamourous but income is income and the self esteem boost may help you move on to better things?
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/Employmentsupport/YourEmploymentRights/DG_4001071

Indie_Kid

wantsajob wrote: »

You clearly misunderstood the point I was making. The section of the form I refer to does not mention disability. ASDA's application form has a section with some psychometric questions. They ask whether you are shy/outgoing and if you work well with other people and so on. These questions discriminate against me as they relate to my disability as my disability means I have social difficulties. I am shy and do not work well with others, this is due to my disability, and if they choose who to employ on the basis of those questions then discrimination has occurred.

But if you're not suitable for the job, (either due to disability or lack of experience) then why should you expect an interview?

They ask you these questions to ensure you're the type of person they're looking for.

My disabilities mean I'm shy, too.

wantsajob

Lady_gaga wrote: »

You might be better off going on conts based JSA, it's paid for up to 6 months and you would get help/training in trying to find a job...

I have never had a job (due to my condition and employers being unwilling to employ) so have never made any contributions, so I doubt I can claim contribution based JSA or ESA.

hoo wrote: »

Hi
Have you tried looking at info about the DDA as it's illegal for employers to discriminate against people with conditions listed when it comes to employment.

I have, sadly employers always have their excuses (usually something like someone more suted for the job) and never put their foot in it when they know. What's really needed is compulsion to employ the disabled, or some form of benefit for the employers to employ the disabled. Sadly there was some sort of law that employers should employ a certain percentage of disabled people and these were withdrawn.

dmg24

wantsajob wrote: »

I have, sadly employers always have their excuses (usually something like someone more suted for the job) and never put their foot in it when they know. What's really needed is compulsion to employ the disabled, or some form of benefit for the employers to employ the disabled. Sadly there was some sort of law that employers should employ a certain percentage of disabled people and these were withdrawn.

But why should a disabled person be employed over a more suitable applicant? I am disabled, but would never expect to get a position over someone better than me.

If you have a CDL I assume you have done some postgraduate/ professional study - what qualifications do you have?