my son wants to get custody for his son

looby75

nottslass wrote: »

Paracetamol suspension is just a generic version of calpol - it does not contain any antihistamine.

The "suspension" part of it simply refers to the fact its a liquid not tablet form.

the particular medicine that I mentioned in my post (but have now deleted the name of jic), that my friends daughter was using on her son wasn't just paracetamol it also contained an antihistamine that had the side effect of making the child sleepy.

nottslass_2

looby75 wrote: »

the particular medicine that I mentioned in my post (but have now deleted the name of jic), that my friends daughter was using on her son wasn't just paracetamol it also contained an antihistamine that had the side effect of making the child sleepy.

I was referring /quoting lilacpixies post in which she thought that the description "paracetamol suspension" meant she had in fact had been prescribed the version with antihistamine in it and not the regular stuff.:)

tweetie_pie_3

nottslass wrote: »

Ok so I know I'm risking a flaming here,but there is too much about this thread that doesn't add up....................

Firstly the police were allegedly "hunting the mother down" because she'd apparently doped the baby on calpol (the op said this "was last night") - If this was the case then why isn't the child in hospital ?

Next the Baby is apparently hospitalised because the Baby was being over fed by a having 6oz feed followed by a 2oz 2 hrs later - Sorry but Its really not possible to force feed a baby of 8 weeks !!! In any case my mine were having this amount of formula at that age anyway.
BTW its called demand feeding.

If Social services are apparently so concerned about the childs welfare that they want the OP to have residency - then why haven't they simply removed the child from its mother and placed the child in her care ? In the short term there would be no need for the OP to engage a solicitor and start proceedings if SS had concluded that this was indeed in the childs best interests.

The OP feels that they can provide a stable and loving home for her Grandson,yet only 3 months ago she was in hospital after overdosing and was also in the processes of splitting up with her husband. I realise things are improving for the op but these things are still very recent and hardly an ideal environment to bring an already vulnerable child into.

Maybe the OP's love for her Grandson is clouding her judgement and reaher perception of the situation ,but apart from than the OP's interpretation of the mothers parenting skills there doesn't appear to be any conclusive examples to suggest that the child is at risk.

I sincerely hope that this thread is a wind up and if it isn't and the babies welfare really is at risk,then I hope that social services Hurry up and place the baby with a family that can give it the stability,love and upbringing it deserves.

Firstly they r suspicious this is wot she is doing but she keeps threatening to leave with baby so sw cant find her that is y they r keeping in close contact with her and yes they couldnt find her whereabouts again so the police were called

Secondly it was the nurses at the hospital that says he is having way too much milk for his age and it made him constipated so very bad stomach pains

They cant remove the child as its not the mum thats doing the neglect but the grandmother so the mum is not neglecting him apart from going drinking every weekend fri= monday and today still nursing a hangover as she left pub at 6am today and the baby is being looked after by other grandmother while her and her friends r in her flat hung over
lastly
yes i had a difficult time but my tablets i was on was making me think differently about things and as soon as i done that and btw i only had to go to hospital for 3 hours no treatment as i was sick just so they kept an eye on me plus i was seen by a doc who confirmed my tabs were no good so changed them and feel 100% and yes because of my old tabs my relationship was strained but everything is perfectly fine even the docs dont need to c me anymore
The sw knows all about my past and like they said yesterday this is about the childs welfare its not fair on the baby to have a drunken mum and in that environment the last thing i ever wanted was to take him away but if shes drunk and the baby is left with her mum that had hers taken away cos she left her daughters in urine soaked cots and a propped up bottle and even put them in so hot baths my grandsons mum couldnt have a hot bath for years afterwards so yes we have every right to be concerned like the social worker and yes its a fact cos daughter told me and as i told the sw they sed i cant tell u directly but the daughter is not lying

tweetie_pie_3

nottslass wrote: »

Just pointing out what appears to be significant inaccuracies in the thread - sorry but the OP has suggested that the baby was being overdosed,which is a serious accusation.

correction i wasnt suggesting it the sw was as the mum told us she got prescribed calpol sw checked it out and she wasnt and babies behaviour was different

tweetie_pie_3

looby75 wrote: »

One of my friends has custody of 2 of her grandchildren as her daughter wasn't able to care for them due to mental health problems. Even though SS wanted her to have the first grandchild my friend was the one who had to do all of the work so to speak when she was trying to get a residency order for him because her daughter was resisting giving up her ds.

The problem was that SS had to prove that the mum was unfit and that takes time, so it was my friend who had to do all the legal stuff herself. It sounds as though the OP is in exactly the same situation.

My friends daughter has had 4 children now and after the first 2 the 3rd and 4th were automatically taken from her and handed to other family members, the other grandchild my friend has was no 3 and she didn't have to jump through any hoops at all, as by that time SS had all the proof they needed.

I hope those who are doubting the op might realise that when it comes down to child protection it's not always as straight forward as the SS getting what they think is best for the child immediately

exactly
when a child is on child protection its not as easy as just removing the child as there is no hard evidence apart from mum going drinking etc hospitals/docs/health visitors/sw/us have noticed she doesnt do anything 4 baby her mum does and although these things baby has had r due to grandmother but mums past drugs and gbh dont help
we want whats best 4 baby if i thought it was with her id leave it cos a baby needs loving parents but its not fair on him to not be with any parent cos now my son dont c him and she drinks half the week

tweetie_pie_3

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

At the risk of being pedantic, if the HC professionals were talking about the night time version they would have said unsuitable for children under 6 YEARS, not 3 months.

However, I have read Looby's posts and am always willing to learn things so I will give the OP the benefit of the doubt although I would still question whether the OP is mentally fit and able to deal with a tiny demanding newborn whilst dealing with her own family in light of recent events.

Ultimately it's the baby that counts in all of this.[/QUOTE

I have 4 children well nearly 2 are adults my children all adore baby and his like a breath of fresh air that came into our lives

I cope perfectly well as i used to have him a lot plenty of support and yes like others have said we know mums family have not got a good track record neglect of children just recently in grandmothers care she was supposed to be looking after friends 2 year old daughter anyway child wandered off fell off a concrete wall ended up in hospital while grandmother didnt even know she had wandered off so i dont want that happen to my grandson so yes thats y the sw r supporting us as they want him looked after

tweetie_pie_3

gizmo111 wrote: »

Without a shadow of doubt she would have meant legal advice fro ma qualified and insured professional not from a public forum. It is also likely that she meant for your son to get advice.

This child is subject to a CP plan and if the neglect and passing the baby around is as you say then I am surprised that SS have not issued care proceedings. I am astonished that they have told you to go seek a residency order, without carrying out any form of assessment on you or your son. I think you may be misunderstanding the procedures.
When the police went searching for the baby - where did they find him and what made anyone suspect he was being overdosed on calpol, particularly in light of the fact that you say his mother doesn't look after him but her mother does?

They have checked out all of my family me and partner included have spoke to bosses etc and checked our home out all came bk perfect
i have explained about the calpol earlier and they know from information from the past that he is not safe that is why they r keeping a close eye on him and want us to get a residency order b4 any harm come to him and its too late

tweetie_pie_3

LilacPixie wrote: »

I think thats probably why we were given it too. It really is a godsend when the kids are so ill that they cannot sleep. The same LO used to get real bad blocked noses and sinuses at under a year old, you used to be able to buy medised OTC from 3 months +, after stories of it being used for sleep purposes they lifted the age to 2+ and now its 6+. Only a few months ago I took a half used bottle to my local chemist to be disposed of and the box was obviously an old one saying 3+ months. As far as I am aware the medicine has not changed just the licencing.

Anyway this is a bit OT so I will stop now.

For the OP. If your son wants custody then fine get him to contact a solicitor himself and fight for it. I'm afraid taking on an infant is a very grown up thing to do and he needs to be sure he can handle the responsibility himself. From your posts it seems you very much want custody and say your son agrees but nothing from him instigating wanting a residence order. You say social workers are involved which is common if the family or anyone in the house if already known to them or if the mother has or had her own SW but the instances you have listed like the calpol and the feeding seem to be minor and your opinion of neglect. TBH I would be very concerned that a medical professional said calpol is dangerous for under 3 months old when it is licenced for use at a younger age and routinly given to children after first innoculations at around 8 weeks.

My son does want him looked after and living with us he also is aware he will need support thats where his family comes in but what i do know that here he is very much loved and he will be looked after properly im not saying im perfect but ive had experience of looking after 4 and my son maybe young but he does more than the mum whose 10 years older

emsywoo123

tweetie_pie wrote: »

Social workers want the baby to come to us but i dont know where to start

please help i really need advice on what to do before something bad happens

OP I did read your thread when you first posted, but cannot remember all the posts now and too tired to read back through so apologies if this has been covered!

If Social Services decide that the child needs to be removed from mum and placed into foster/family care, you should be fully supported emotionally by them, and they will advise on all financial matters as well.

You just need to keep regular communications open with them and any other health professionals that they advise.

there is a process, wheels and cogs etc, so there is nothing you really need to do "in advance"

Good luck.

one_hot_minute

tweetie_pie wrote: »

My son is at college the social worker said as a student he doesnt need to pay until his got a full time job

Really?! Does he get a grant / have a part time job etc? He's his child, he should be offering some sort of financial support.

Whether social work say he legally needs to, morally he NEEDS to. IM humble O.

I find this whole thing hard to stomach tbh. I dont doubt you are worried about your grandchild, but you seem more intent on smearing and accusing rather than taking the correct steps to do whats right for him.

Also you're saying on one hand he is being neglected and making serious allegations about his care, yet you are pulling up posters for saying "poor kid." I dont understand.

I do think there are more holes in your posts than a collander. I hope SS do the right thing by your grandson and if you are seriously concerned about his welfare, I suggest first port of call for you at 9am tomorrow is a lawyer who specialises in this area.