my son wants to get custody for his son

Pixiechic

tweetie_pie wrote: »

the point is the sw want us to get a residency order as they know he will be looked after better by us but the mum says she dont want him but her mum wont let her give him up and as she wants to be accepted by her mother she goes along with it
Her mum the grandmother wanted another baby but health stopped her so she dont want baby to go
but i cant sit bk and let her neglect him like she did her daughters but she knows if her daughter lose the baby she has as well
the last thing i wanted was to take baby away cos of her past but she clearly doesnt want him we have all tried and sw do not want grandmother to look after baby cos of the way she neglected her own
but as mum hasnt neglected him as such its grandmother its a difficult situation

Do you have to have the Mother's consent in order to obtain a Residency Order?
Who would the Residency Order be for? You, your son or both?
Will the Social Worker help you with your application?

Sorry, firing off questions, I am just trying to understand the immediate concern

Lara44

Tweetie, I think it is great that your son wants to give his child a stable home with your help. I don't have any advice, but I really hope it all works out well for you all. It sounds like the Mum might be relieved.

tweetie_pie_3

Hi the mum dont know about my son wanting to get a residency order
my son has all the paperwork but yes the solicitor will ask the sw and family centre and they will be helping as they have a lot of information more than i know about the family
The mum stopped contact last night as my son didnt invite her to his 18th birthday party but im the one that was arranging a family get together for his 18th not him so she has said he cant see his son and none of us can so she is using the baby as a weapon. she also said she is going to take my sons name off the birth certificate and get her brother to act as my son. I said she couldnt do that as its breaking the law what a sad situation

I have made an appointment with a solicitor on thursday nearest one available so hopefully things will be clearer then

RAS

tweetie pie

Your son need to deal with this muppet legally now. You need to stand back as much as possible

Start by him reminding this woman that there is a DNA test and that he has the legal right to see his child. if she does not co-operate informally, he will use the courts. if the child has been staying with his father at weekends, then he may want to suggest that he expect the same to happen this weekend.

If she refuses to bring tghe baby to stay with him this weekend, he needs to ring social services and alert them to the fact that the baby will be left with the other grandmother this weekend not with him, and tell them what she is aiming to do re the birth certificate.

nottslass_2

Ok so I know I'm risking a flaming here,but there is too much about this thread that doesn't add up....................

Firstly the police were allegedly "hunting the mother down" because she'd apparently doped the baby on calpol (the op said this "was last night") - If this was the case then why isn't the child in hospital ?

Next the Baby is apparently hospitalised because the Baby was being over fed by a having 6oz feed followed by a 2oz 2 hrs later - Sorry but Its really not possible to force feed a baby of 8 weeks !!! In any case my mine were having this amount of formula at that age anyway.
BTW its called demand feeding.

If Social services are apparently so concerned about the childs welfare that they want the OP to have residency - then why haven't they simply removed the child from its mother and placed the child in her care ? In the short term there would be no need for the OP to engage a solicitor and start proceedings if SS had concluded that this was indeed in the childs best interests.

The OP feels that they can provide a stable and loving home for her Grandson,yet only 3 months ago she was in hospital after overdosing and was also in the processes of splitting up with her husband. I realise things are improving for the op but these things are still very recent and hardly an ideal environment to bring an already vulnerable child into.

Maybe the OP's love for her Grandson is clouding her judgement and reaher perception of the situation ,but apart from than the OP's interpretation of the mothers parenting skills there doesn't appear to be any conclusive examples to suggest that the child is at risk.

I sincerely hope that this thread is a wind up and if it isn't and the babies welfare really is at risk,then I hope that social services Hurry up and place the baby with a family that can give it the stability,love and upbringing it deserves.

Loopy_Girl

I have to say that I am confused at the apparant SS involvement but then the OP is having to do all the work to keep the child safe (err sorry, it's her son that wants residency apparantly).

I agree nottslass...there are lots of things that don't make sense and when questioned the OP gets very defensive (I have yet to hear a health professional call Calpol 'dangerous' babies from 8 weeks on).

There have also been some pretty harsh accusations posted such as the baby Mum having sex with a 14 year old:eek: You can't go around saying stuff like that on a forum.

The OP has admitted to mental health problems which she is being treated for and very recently took an overdose - I really would question whether SS would think that the best place for an 8 week old baby would be in that environment.

At the end of the day, if there was a welfare issue then SS would have had the baby out of there. The police and SW don't go chasing for babies and then nothing is done about it.

I echo your closing paragraph nottslass...and if the baby is at risk then to be honest I don't think either Granny should be looking after it. An experienced foster carer would be best for this wee mite at this time.

LilacPixie

when my LO had her 1st set of innoculations the health visitor provided a perscription for calpol

Loopy_Girl

LilacPixie wrote: »

when my LO had her 1st set of innoculations the health visitor provided a perscription for calpol

But even if it not prescribed, you can buy it OTC and it says on the bottle from 2 months.

But the OP is adamant that HV and SW said it was 'dangerous' for children under 3 months.

I work with alot of HV and I have never ever ever heard them say that babies under 3 months should not get Calpol.

You're right...babies get first jabs at 8 weeks so makes sense they can have a spoon of medicine if needed (but it won't 'dope' them up;))

RAS

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

But even if it not prescribed, you can buy it OTC and it says on the bottle from 2 months.

But the OP is adamant that HV and SW said it was 'dangerous' for children under 3 months.

I work with alot of HV and I have never ever ever heard them say that babies under 3 months should not get Calpol.

You're right...babies get first jabs at 8 weeks so makes sense they can have a spoon of medicine if needed (but it won't 'dope' them up;))

Perhaps the problem is night-time calpol as below?

Picking holes in the OPs first posts and going over stuff already covered is not helpful.

nottslass wrote: »

Night time calpol is only licenced for children over the age of 6 - if a 8 week baby was regularly being given this the child would have been seriuosly overdosed, ended up in hospital or worse

nottslass_2

RAS wrote: »

Perhaps the problem is night-time calpol as below?

Picking holes in the OPs first posts and going over stuff already covered is not helpful.

Just pointing out what appears to be significant inaccuracies in the thread - sorry but the OP has suggested that the baby was being overdosed,which is a serious accusation.