Anyone Like Fast cars

cyclonebri1

Someone said you can't get speed cheap. Actually you can.

Anyone wanting cheap thrills should consider kit based car as a track or 2nd/sunnyday car.

I've had Cyclones and Westfields up to 220 bhp, doing 0-60 in 4 sec dead. Cars had cost about 8K each

30mpg on the road, 18 ish on track but best of all limited mileage insurance fully comp inc Legal !!! and recovery for 3000k per annum, at a cost of approx £165 for a 40 year old.;)

Cheapest way for speed thrills.

For anyone that wants to take a look at whats available, visit the National Kit show at Stoneleigh in May.

Rolandtheroadie

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Someone said you can't get speed cheap. Actually you can.

Anyone wanting cheap thrills should consider kit based car as a track or 2nd/sunnyday car.

I've had Cyclones and Westfields up to 220 bhp, doing 0-60 in 4 sec dead. Cars had cost about 8K each

30mpg on the road, 18 ish on track but best of all limited mileage insurance fully comp inc Legal !!! and recovery for 3000k per annum, at a cost of approx £165 for a 40 year old.;)

Cheapest way for speed thrills.

For anyone that wants to take a look at whats available, visit the National Kit show at Stoneleigh in May.

1999 Hayabusa (who's engines probably in a kit car right now) £2200, 0-60 in around 3.25 sec and a top speed of over 190 MPH.
With 1 years NCB, 2 years riding experience at 35 years old, £140 TPFT without legal cover.
Thats bang to bucks thats hard to beat.

andygb

scotsman4th wrote: »

1999 Hayabusa (who's engines probably in a kit car right now) £2200, 0-60 in around 3.25 sec and a top speed of over 190 MPH.
With 1 years NCB, 2 years riding experience at 35 years old, £140 TPFT without legal cover.
Thats bang to bucks thats hard to beat.

That would be an awesome engine for a small, light kit car, something like the Atom or Radical. You could probably design and build something yourself (with help from an engineer and electrician) for well under ten grand - mid/rear engine, sequential gearbox, simple wrap around, tubular frame.

boyse7en

andygb wrote: »

That would be an awesome engine for a small, light kit car, something like the Atom or Radical. You could probably design and build something yourself (with help from an engineer and electrician) for well under ten grand - mid/rear engine, sequential gearbox, simple wrap around, tubular frame.

The fastest 0-100mph production car in the world was, for a while, a Tiger kit car fitted with twin bike engines (ZX9R from memory) with a clever 2 into 1 gearbox.

Now, get one of those, two Hayabusa engines (maybe a supercharger or two??) and that should shift!

More prosaicly, I've got a Tiger Cat with a 150hp Ford Pinto lump in it that cost under £4k to build and does 0-60 in about 6 secs. Top speed is "sufficient" (enough to lose you licence if you want to, but aerodynamics are pretty crap)

Great fun, cheap for parts (clutch, brakes etc are standard Ford parts) and cheap to insure, too (under £125)

supermonkey

Kit cars! Would love one.... but I need to have one car that is also practical so its a no go. I would also not feel safe in something like that!

bunking_off

Been watching this thread with interest. I like my fast car, but my days of putting up with rock hard suspension or stripped out interiors are long gone...prefer a little luxury.

With that in mind, IMHO you have to go a good way to beat a Jag S-Type R. 4.2 supercharged V8, 0-60 in just over 5 seconds, but coupled to the waft-factor of a Jag. Good thing is no-one expects the performance it delivers, plus its effortless as 6 speed auto. And (although I paid considerably more a few years ago) they go for peanuts...you can get them for <£10k but £11k will buy a mint 5 year old one with average mileage.

Downsides? You need a friendly insurance broker, mpg not brilliant (20-25 around town, 30-35 on motorway, <15 mpg when you hammer it), bit of a risk that there can be big ticket items if anything does go wrong (though mine has been utterly reliable). Tyres aint cheap either as the back ones are best part of a foot wide.

However, you can't beat the scream from the supercharger when it kicks in and it feels like you've just engaged warp factor.

vaio

I feel much the same about my S4, 265bhp, 400Nm, two small turbos so no lag, just a smooth surge of torque from 1500 rpm up, uber reliable and reasonably priced consumables.
Mine's a '99 model so tax is cheap ( £165?) and similar is available from your local friendly ebay/autotrader seller for <£5k for a car that cost >£40k new.

Mid 5's 0-60, top end north of 155 and that delightful "planted" feel you only get with four wheel drive, long term average for mixed driving is 27mph. Insurance is just under £200 (but I have been driving 30+ years)

Only down side I can think of is as it’s at 200k miles I should maybe start thinking about a replacement but what? Don’t fancy the 4.2 V8 so that really only leaves an early RS4 and they are still silly money

I did think about swapping the S4 badges for TDi ones to confuse the BMW/Saxo brigade but inertia took over.

darich

vaio wrote: »

I feel much the same about my S4, 265bhp, 400Nm, two small turbos so no lag, just a smooth surge of torque from 1500 rpm up, uber reliable and reasonably priced consumables.
Mine's a '99 model so tax is cheap ( £165?) and similar is available from your local friendly ebay/autotrader seller for <£5k for a car that cost >£40k new.

Mid 5's 0-60, top end north of 155 and that delightful "planted" feel you only get with four wheel drive, long term average for mixed driving is 27mph. Insurance is just under £200 (but I have been driving 30+ years)

Only down side I can think of is as it’s at 200k miles I should maybe start thinking about a replacement but what? Don’t fancy the 4.2 V8 so that really only leaves an early RS4 and they are still silly money

I did think about swapping the S4 badges for TDi ones to confuse the BMW/Saxo brigade but inertia took over.

I'm seriously thinking of upgrading to an S4 when the time comes. Could well be a year off yet but the S4 is a real possibilty. I'd love an RS4 even if it's just because the arches are wider!!!

If I could be sure the car wouldn't cost £1000 per service then I could live with 18-20mpg for the sake of the V8.

vaio

I’d heartily recommend it

I did pay for a dealer first service (which would have been over a grand in the UK) when I got because it was new/included a cam belt/to keep the FSH but since then I’ve done it my self.

Change oil & filter every six months, other fluids/filters as scheduled/required and the rest is wear & tear items that get fixed when they wear out.

It is quite heavy on brakes & tyres and the suspension is quite complex with lots of bushes & ball joints which benefit from being changed at 20 or 30k intervals but parts are widely available & cheap so if you can DIY most of it doesn’t cost a whole lot in absolute terms and even less when you consider what the car is.

Once you had it for a while its abilities become the norm and you’ll find your self thinking you could do with more power, then the only way to go is RS4 but they are expensive to buy and they have a lot of specialist parts which because of low volumes could well not be available in the after-market. Audi dealer parts = £££

goingforward_3

supermonkey wrote: »

I understand some will criticise that they aren't money saving....but i'm sure you'd all agree even money savers are allowed to have nice things.

We have gone without so much over the years and I am looking to get something a bit quick now and have found a bargain.

My concern is going from a 50mpg car to a 35mpg car. This may cost me another £400 a year!

I just wondered if anyone has any tips or advice really?

Cheers

Yes unless you can comfortably afford all the associated running costs then dont it .

We used to have a Subura STI.. insurance wasnt too bad about £450, road tax was £180ish .. but it drank fuel like it was going out of fashion. We used to spend at least £300 a month and that was just normal going to work and back, shopping and maybe the odd trip out at weekends. Servicing costs and parts were bloody dear too.

That said i loved it and could have cried when i sold it...

And if we hadnt been so stupid with money i'd have another fast car tomorrow (oh how i'd love a Lime Green RS).