A Disabled Charity And A PPC

taffy056

Posted there

It would help if you did actually get the facts straight.

1) Private parking tickets are not enforceable!
2) The landowner can only claim in court their material loss, if its free car parking there is no loss!
3) The PPCs (Private Parking Company) inflate their tickets to ridiculous amounts, which amounts to a penalty, it is illegal for a private company to issue penalties, its also illegal for private companies to call them fines.
4) PPCs use debt collectors that make people believe they are bailiffs, they are not!
5) One debt collecting agency routinely uses letterheads that claim they are solicitors (Graham White), they are being investigated.
6) The blue badge scheme does operate in private car parks.
7) There is no independent appeals process with any PPC they turn down ALL appeals, whether you are disabled or not.

The BPA is not a regulator, they are not independent, and they most certainly are there to look after their members!

You really need independent legal advice in regards to Private Car Parks, the solicitor on Wathdog is a legal expert on such matters, he does not have a vested interest in this unlike the BPA.

anewman

See how long until it gets deleted, lol.

taffy056

anewman wrote: »

See how long until it gets deleted, lol.

Well they are just burying their heads in the sand, and doing a complete disservice to disabled people around the country, are you listening Helen Dolphin and Mobilise?

anewman

Mobilise - at work seeking out all the information for you disabled people out there!

Coupon-mad

Did you guess this is me posting under a made up name:


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Please don't spread incorrect BPA propaganda

Posted by Emily Chester at 02 Sep 10 22:15


Helen Dolphin, please get your facts right, I fear that Mobilise has been crushed under the pressure of their friends in the private parking industry.

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If the advice from Watchdog was true and drivers could ignore any parking ticket issued to them
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Answer - the advice given by Watchdog IS correct, private parking tickets mean diddly squat and can be safely ignored. More shocking is the threatening letters that those companies write to try to scare and bully people (including disabled people) into paying a spuriously high penalty amount.

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it could end up being a nightmare for Blue Badge holders.
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Answer - It already is a nightmare, when disabled and able-bodied people alike get those threatening letters saying they are going to be dragged to Court and face bailiffs for an 'offence' that simply doesn't exist and would not be upheld by a judge!

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We all know how frustrating it is to find all the disabled bays taken by non-disabled people
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Errr...no, what you are describing is disabled bays which are full, that's all - frustrating but not worthy of a fake PCN. No-one can know whether the drivers, passengers or people the driver is collecting are non-disabled, because as I am sure you know really, Blue Badges don't actually apply at all on private land. It's only your friends in the private parking 'industry' who like to pretend otherwise to give them more excuses to issue their bogus tickets.

Just to let everyone know, I do NOT condone parking in a disabled bay if the driver or a passenger is not disabled. But to directly discriminate against recently-diagnosed people who would fit the DDA definition of disability seem to be a DDA breach by private parking companies and the retail landowner/occupiers who employ them to waste their time issuing their paper aeroplanes there. Disabled visitors are perfectly entitled to use disabled spaces on private land, and that includes non Blue Badge-holding, genuine disabled people (e.g. those visiting from outside the EU, those who rarely travel by car so have never needed to obtain a Blue Badge, those who have recently been diagnosed, those whose Blue Badge has dropped down, those who have forgotten to display it, etc).

Your naivety and belief in what the BPA has told you is stunning.

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keystone

taffy056 wrote: »

6) The blue badge scheme does operate in private car parks.

Taff - you might want to go back to the DN page and amend this line if the system will let you.

Cheers

taffy056

keystone wrote: »

Taff - you might want to go back to the DN page and amend this line if the system will let you.

Cheers

oops sorry it can't be changed now

fb1969

fb1969 wrote: »

I guess if you would rather take the advice of someone with a vested interest, instead of someone with legal knowledge, Mobilise’s stance over PPCs is bound to be the outcome.

Quoting myself here as I missed something before.

Given that UKCPS generously pay for their victim to be a member of Mobilise there is actually more than one vested interest here!

Kite2010

and since these companies have become corporate members this task has become considerably easier

So they won't come out to say not to pay the invoices because they might lose income when the PPC decide to drop their "corporate" membership of the charity.

They won't bite the hand that feeds them

Coupon-mad

Interesting 'advice column' answer here given by Helen Dolphin about Advisory Bays, it's undated but must presumably have been before Mobilise were brainwashed by UKCPS:

http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/have-your-say/ask-the-experts-folder/ask-the-experts-27

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Neighbours use my bay QWhat do you have to do to make a disabled parking bay enforceable? My local housing association has put a disabled parking space in our car park but won't enforce it. This has made my life hell as I keep getting blocked in and can't go anywhere unless I know whose car is blocking me. Then I end up getting a mouthful of abuse when I ask them to move their car. It has taken five years to get a disabled bay marked out; what can I do to get it enforced?

Helen Dolphin answers:
I'm sorry to hear you have such thoughtless people living near you, as the disabled space that's marked outside your home relies to a certain degree on people's goodwill.
There are basically two types of bays and the bay outside your house is just an advisory bay, which means that the council doesn't formally restrict other vehicles from parking in them.
To enable this bay to be enforced would require a Traffic Regulatory Order (TRO). TROs can take a long time to implement and can cost a considerable amount of money, which in some areas local authorities are asking applicants to fund. I know that's not what you wanted to hear.
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So why then does Helen, an ex-news reporter I understand, insist in a widely-distributed article in the same publication (Disability Now) that a pattern of paint that she KNOWS FULL WELL is only an advisory bay suddenly transforms into somehow 'not advisory' and 'enforceable under contract law' when a PPC says so?

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