A Disabled Charity And A PPC

Flipper38

ttlowton wrote: »

flipper,
did you by any chance used to post on the yourable forum? I remember haveing quite a few exchanges with someone with your misguided view's who was always quoting someone from mobalise, you where wrong then and are still wrong now.

Terry.

Never heard of that site.

Regards

Flipper

trisontana

taffy056 wrote: »

So pay close attention to the direct gov website below - end of discussion really as the government clearly shows where the blue badge scheme operates - next question ?


About the scheme

The Blue Badge Scheme only applies to on-street parking.


Where the scheme does not apply

The Blue Badge Scheme does not apply to off-street car parks, private roads and at most airports.

You can find airport plans showing the location of parking spaces for disabled people on the Blue Badge map.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/MotoringAndTransport/Bluebadgescheme/DG_4001061

Try telling that to Mobilise who have this joke of a web page

lucylucky

trisontana wrote: »

Try telling that to Mobilise who have this joke of a web page

They would be better putting this one in its place.

Much more useful that the woeful Mobilise effort.

Coupon-mad

Flipper38 wrote: »

Blue badge Holders are people who generally have reduced mobility. Why wouldn't you have a blue badge if thats the case. If people choose not to have a blue badge when eligible then thats their choice. They are making a statement that says to me they don't want to be singled out as having a disability. Unfortunately that means they can't use the disabled bays.

Fortunately you are wrong and they CAN park in disabled bays on private land.

'Why wouldn't you have a blue badge...'?

1. If you'd very recently been diagnosed with a long term condition, or

2.If you didn't drive or often need to travel by car, so had no need for a BB, or

3. If you were taking a passenger who had a learning disability, was partially sighted or had another disability which would need a space close to the store, or

4. If you were transporting a disabled child and had no BB, or

5. If the disabled driver/passenger was visiting from abroad, or

6. If the disabled person simply did not want a Blue Badge (it's not the law that they have to have the word 'disabled' tattooed on their forehead!), or

7. If the disabled driver passenger was an MSEer who knew they didn't have to display it!

There are more possibilities of course, but it's late and I'm bored now...:p


HTH

trisontana

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Fortunately you are wrong and they CAN park in disabled bays on private land.

'Why wouldn't you have a blue badge...'?

1. If you'd very recently been diagnosed with a long term condition, or

2.If you didn't drive or often need to travel by car, so had no need for a BB, or

3. If you were taking a passenger who had a learning disability, was partially sighted or had another disability which would need a space close to the store, or

4. If you were transporting a disabled child and had no BB, or

5. If the disabled driver/passenger was visiting from abroad, or

6. If the disabled person simply did not want a Blue Badge (it's not the law that they have to have the word 'disabled' tattooed on their forehead!), or

7. If the disabled driver passenger was an MSEer who knew they didn't have to display it!

There are more possibilities of course, but it's late and I'm bored now...:p


HTH

If only we could get that point across to Mobilise and their obsession with blue badges in private car-parks. But it looks as though they think they know best, and the rest of us are wrong. That's what associating yourselves with a PPC does. It puts you into an alternative universe where the laws of the land do not apply.

keystone

fb1969 wrote: »

Because being disabled does not necessarily mean you have a Blue Badge,

Equally having a blue badge doesn't necessarily mean you are disabled. For example two people local to me with the things and with their ow private parking bay outside the house (yes I know any blue badge holder can use but they think its their private bay) courtesy of the council both of whom are fitter than I am.

Cheers

nicechap

From the look of their main website, they seem to be a worthwhile campaigning charity to increase access to all manner of services for disabled people.

However, I can't find their report & accounts, or a list of their trustees on their website. Am I being dim?

Flipper38

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Fortunately you are wrong and they CAN park in disabled bays on private land.

'Why wouldn't you have a blue badge...'?

1. If you'd very recently been diagnosed with a long term condition, or

Surely it depends on what the long term condition is! Just because you may have been diagnosed with a long term condition, it doesn't mean you are eligible for a blue badge.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

2.If you didn't drive or often need to travel by car, so had no need for a BB, or

Why would you not get one if you have a disability that means you are eligible for one? It's very unlikely that you'd never want to get into a car and be driven somewhere.

(However, as you'll see below, as long as you contact the PPC and explain why you don't have a Badge, I'm sure they'll be able to accomodate you)

Coupon-mad wrote: »

3. If you were taking a passenger who had a learning disability, was partially sighted or had another disability which would need a space close to the store, or

If you was taking a passenger with one of these disabilities why would you need to park in a disabled bay. Therefore why should the car park allow you to park in a disabled bay when you have no need to park there and they have no need to let you. You aren't being discriminated against because these disabilities are not hindering your ability to park.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

4. If you were transporting a disabled child and had no BB, or

Children are eligible for blue badges, ergo why wouldn't you get one for your child?

Coupon-mad wrote: »

5. If the disabled driver/passenger was visiting from abroad, or

The Blue Badge is a European parking scheme. Visitors from outside Europe usually have their own version of the disabled badge.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

6. If the disabled person simply did not want a Blue Badge (it's not the law that they have to have the word 'disabled' tattooed on their forehead!), or

You are absolutely correct, a disabled person doesn't have to have one if they don't want one. However, they would then have to contact the PPC and explain that, and then the PPC could provide for them accordingly.

As you are well aware the terms of parking in a private car park usually state only Blue badge holders can park in the disabled bays. If you choose not to have a blue badge and you decide not to contact the PPC to make other arrangements then you only have yourself to blame.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

7. If the disabled driver passenger was an MSEer who knew they didn't have to display it!

Please see the second paragraph of my answer above.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

There are more possibilities of course, but it's late and I'm bored now...:p

HTH

HTH

Regards

Flipper

Flipper38

trisontana wrote: »

If only we could get that point across to Mobilise and their obsession with blue badges in private car-parks. But it looks as though they think they know best, and the rest of us are wrong. That's what associating yourselves with a PPC does. It puts you into an alternative universe where the laws of the land do not apply.

From what I can make out, it's the private car parks who ask you to show a blue badge as evidence to park in disabled bays not mobilise. Their point in running baywatch seems to be just to make sure spaces are available for disabled people. Getting into bed with them is quite possibly their way of educating and working behind the scenes to make sure they do things fairly. Surely they need to be given the time to prove themselves.

At the end of the day - PPCs could say you have to apply to them for a pass to park in their disabled bays in their car parks. But instead of inventing their own scheme they are simply just using the current and very well recognised one already in place.

lucylucky

Flipper38 wrote: »

From what I can make out, it's the private car parks who ask you to show a blue badge as evidence to park in disabled bays not mobilise. Their point in running baywatch seems to be just to make sure spaces are available for disabled people.
And how do they make sure spaces are available for disabled people?
Getting into bed with them is quite possibly their way of educating and working behind the scenes to make sure they do things fairly. Surely they need to be given the time to prove themselves.
PPCs have already proved themselves to be self serving scum, no more time needed for that.

At the end of the day - PPCs could say you have to apply to them for a pass to park in their disabled bays in their car parks. But instead of inventing their own scheme they are simply just using the current and very well recognised one already in place.

There is no scheme in place for Private Car parks so the PPCs are not using any current scheme. They are merely trying to steal peoples money.