Blue Badge 'police'

Brassedoff

SandraScarlett wrote: »

It appears to me that there are only 3 opinions that should count and they belong to Brassedoff, wattdallas and pwales. If anyone disagrees with them they are branded as ignorant, stupid and unable to "get it". These 3 posters feel it is perfectly acceptable to be insulting and rude, but nobody else should even politely disagree with them.

Worse still, anyone elses problems pale into insignificance by comparison, and BBs, though issued, shouldn't be used in case they should require the spaces.

Efforts to explain our, or a family member's disabilities, and necessities for a BB space, are shushed away, and people end up trying to justify their useage of BBs. There is absolutely no need to do so. There are none as deaf as those who don't wish to hear.

Everybody is annoyed, and rightly so, when they see a BB space used by somebody not displaying a badge, but we have no right to judge a person's need, or otherwise, because they "look" OK.

Tomorrow, I shall drive my husband shopping, in our new car, courtesy of Motability, park in a BB space, and if he has a problem getting out and stays there, or wishes to return to the car before me, that is absolutely fine. I wish all posters a Happy New Year.

xx

Sorry but I accept neither your point or prose. I have a view, I am perfectly entitled to express it. If you don't like it, ignore it. Partners of people who are perfectly able bodied but cannot face the day have been abusive and rude at any suggestion they might walk a little further than a less able person. Rewind the clock back, there was a time when people gave their seats up on a bus or in other places for women and old folk, let alone apparent disabled people. I suppose society has changed?

Oh, it's not YOUR car. It is a car that your Husband can get as part of his benefit. Enjoy it whilst it lasts. I am sure these will be next up for the chop when the Government gets around to it.

DanE2010

Brassedoff wrote: »

As your comprehension of basic English is sufficiently poor, one would not expect you to be able to take others views on board. The whole idea of a debate is to have a view, express it and wait a rebuttal. Your post clearly demonstrates your inferior use of language. I had a proposal of a two tier system, others disagree, fine! We can agree not to see eye to eye on a subject can we not? As for never giving advice, again you show your ignorance and a churlish tact aimed at trying to belittle and bully your way through.



How offensive to the young lady! Stuck in the 1970's are we? Can you not debate with her without resorting to condescending remarks?

Is this all you have got to pick at? my use of grammar?! Calling me ignorant? and mentioning me as a bully? all this is highly comical given your posts on this thread and on this forum as a whole, there is a difference between not seeing eye to eye and insulting a whole section of society, its ok for you to put people down and express your ignorant views but it isnt ok for anyone to call you up on it? You keep on making the comments people will keep responding because your making comments about people and their condition that they suffer with everyday and you see fit to state that there needs are less than yours, this is what your saying in regards to this 2 tier system, you dont seem to grasp how much your insulting/upsetting people, no wonder people get upset, but you cant see that can you because your needs take priority, your opinion is the gospel its not to be questioned, if anyone does there accused of bullying or 'not getting it' and your not bothered about insulting anyone else, well isnt that all just fab!

And honestly your post holds no weight with me considering you've just insulted me and defended wattsdallas who with every post she makes insulting remarks or is nasty to someone, not only to me but in pretty much every post she makes its quoting someone on here and being nasty and insulting, yet you feel fit to defend that behaviour but try and accuse me of it? so il take what you say with a pinch of salt thanks very much.

DanE2010

Brassedoff wrote: »

Sorry but I accept neither your point or prose. I have a view, I am perfectly entitled to express it. If you don't like it, ignore it. Partners of people who are perfectly able bodied but cannot face the day have been abusive and rude at any suggestion they might walk a little further than a less able person. Rewind the clock back, there was a time when people gave their seats up on a bus or in other places for women and old folk, let alone apparent disabled people. I suppose society has changed?

Oh, it's not YOUR car. It is a car that your Husband can get as part of his benefit. Enjoy it whilst it lasts. I am sure these will be next up for the chop when the Government gets around to it.

Demonstrates exactly what ive been saying, you go on about other people on this thread bullying and making nasty comments, so what was that you just wrote? You come on here for an intellictual debate yet you feel the need to make comments like that, hmmmmm intellectually superior my foot!

Brassedoff

DanE2010 wrote: »

Is this all you have got to pick at? my use of grammar?! Calling me ignorant? and mentioning me as a bully? all this is highly comical given your posts on this thread and on this forum as a whole, there is a difference between not seeing eye to eye and insulting a whole section of society, its ok for you to put people down and express your ignorant views but it isnt ok for anyone to call you up on it? You keep on making the comments people will keep responding because your making comments about people and their condition that they suffer with everyday and you see fit to state that there needs are less than yours, this is what your saying in regards to this 2 tier system, you dont seem to grasp how much your insulting/upsetting people, no wonder people get upset, but you cant see that can you because your needs take priority, your opinion is the gospel its not to be questioned, if anyone does there accused of bullying or 'not getting it' and your not bothered about insulting anyone else, well isnt that all just fab!

And honestly your post holds no weight with me considering you've just insulted me and defended wattsdallas who with every post she makes insulting remarks or is nasty to someone, not only to me but in pretty much every post she makes its quoting someone on here and being nasty and insulting, yet you feel fit to defend that behaviour but try and accuse me of it? so il take what you say with a pinch of salt thanks very much.

If you get upset from a proposal you need to get a life!

As for anything else, I neither swear, belittle or demean. Unlike my corresponder! Are others opinions not just as valid as yours? We have a three tier system of benefits. I personally believe I am in the wrong group when it comes to the care component. But others get it for ailments that the DWP consider has higher needs, hence a three tier system. What is so wrong with a similar proposal for a BB? Are my points not so valid? Have you embarked on selectively trawling my posts, if so, the attention and interest you show in me is quite worrying and on another day flattering.

Keep an open mind. We may agree on another subject!

DanE2010

Brassedoff wrote: »

If you get upset from a proposal you need to get a life!

As for anything else, I neither swear, belittle or demean. Unlike my corresponder! Are others opinions not just as valid as yours? We have a three tier system of benefits. I personally believe I am in the wrong group when it comes to the care component. But others get it for ailments that the DWP consider has higher needs, hence a three tier system. What is so wrong with a similar proposal for a BB? Are my points not so valid? Have you embarked on selectively trawling my posts, if so, the attention and interest you show in me is quite worrying and on another day flattering.

Keep an open mind. We may agree on another subject!

Ive not trawled your posts ive just noticed many threads on this disability board you make the same comments and the thread decends into chaos, you do remember your first thread you started on this board dont you? I think it got closed down in the end and il think you'll find I tried to reason with you then also as did many but your still going about this board insulting people, yes you may not swear but that doesnt stop what your implying upsetting many people. Tellin me to get a life may not be swearing but I wouldnt say its keeping in the spirit of your 'intellectual debate' is it? There are people on this board genuinely worried about their future, and the whole 'ha good luck when the changes come blah blah' is not helpful for people on this board looking for advice, I dont like the fact people will come to this board and looking for advice and go away feeling worse than before they came, is that so wrong of me?!

Brassedoff

DanE2010 wrote: »

Demonstrates exactly what ive been saying, you go on about other people on this thread bullying and making nasty comments, so what was that you just wrote? You come on here for an intellictual debate yet you feel the need to make comments like that, hmmmmm intellectually superior my foot!

Nasty, you lower yourself to a churlish comment about YOUR car. Something it is not. If you find that nasty, you need to get in that DWP/private enterprise funded vechicle and get out more.

This forum divides into several interest groups. Make a comment against one and the weight of it desends on you. If it/they cannot get their own way, then the victim card gets played.

Oderint Dum Metuant

DanE2010

Brassedoff wrote: »

Nasty, you lower yourself to a churlish comment about YOUR car. Something it is not. If you find that nasty, you need to get in that DWP/private enterprise funded vechicle and get out more.

This forum divides into several interest groups. Make a comment against one and the weight of it desends on you. If it/they cannot get their own way, then the victim card gets played.

Oderint Dum Metuant

You left out the rest of the comment that you made about the car which was aimed at being nasty to the poster tho didnt you? I was calling you up on the rest of the comment, but im sure you know that already dont you? urgh I give up im off to bed, nite!

Brassedoff

DanE2010 wrote: »

I dont like the fact people will come to this board and looking for advice and go away feeling worse than before they came, is that so wrong of me?!

No it's not wrong of you. But it is wrong to suggest day is night when it's not. Not saying you do, others may. Sorry if I don't "hug" everyone. If someone asks a question that my broad experience in life allows me to make a contribution, I will. Irresepective as to whether it agrees with you or not.

As for my first post. Yes I remember it. One poster on this page called me a pregnant goldfish, others a troll.

Being thanked 123 times in 50 posts must mean I am contributing wrongly?

Oderint Dum Metuant

SandraScarlett

Brassedoff wrote: »

Sorry but I accept neither your point or prose. I have a view, I am perfectly entitled to express it. If you don't like it, ignore it. Partners of people who are perfectly able bodied but cannot face the day have been abusive and rude at any suggestion they might walk a little further than a less able person. Rewind the clock back, there was a time when people gave their seats up on a bus or in other places for women and old folk, let alone apparent disabled people. I suppose society has changed?

Oh, it's not YOUR car. It is a car that your Husband can get as part of his benefit. Enjoy it whilst it lasts. I am sure these will be next up for the chop when the Government gets around to it.

Brassedoff, your name sums up precisely how I feel about your comments. You have succinctly stated what others have tried to explain to you, and I quote your words - I have a view, I am perfectly entitled to express it. If you don't like it, ignore it. We too are entitled to express our views, and if you don't like them ignore them - but you don't do you?

Instead you feel it necessary to make unnecessary comments, such as saying it's not my husband's car. I know that. And you know that I know it too! That is why I said "in our new car, courtesy of Motability". Why don't you take a leaf out of your own book and ignore comments you don't like, as you advise the rest of us to do?

Why do you feel it necessary to make comments about someone's spelling or grammar, when you are not an expert yourself? If you are going to be pedantic, I suggest you read through your own posts, prior to pressing the "Submit Reply" button.

You frequently omit the possessive apostrophe (perhaps it is because you are unsure of its correct use) and your spelling and punctuation leave much to be desired. But of course, as it's your post, it doesn't matter, because you feel it is perfectly within your right to insult others, and find fault in whatever they say.

I first came across your name when a 17 year old lad posted on another thread that he was deaf and he merely enquired if there was a reduction for carers at the London Dungeons. Your response was to be extremely rude, and then you added something like "if you're going to put your head above the parapet son, be prepared to be shot".

Did it give you some sort of thrill to post that? He asked a question, and if you didn't have anything helpful to say in reply, why did you feel the need to post what you did? Have you ever visited the London Dungeons? I have. Are you aware that it isn't easy for anybody to hear what the guides are saying, as there are so many other noises? As the name implies, it is very dark, so it would be impossible for a deaf person to lip read.

You know what Brassedoff? I love a forum, I enjoy a good debate, but I always know when someone feels they are losing the upper hand, and that's when they have to resort to rudeness, and make pompous comments like "Anger? A ridiculous and stupid statement".

Although, I suppose, I should feel blessed that you have made the first word of your reply "sorry".

xx

Brassedoff

SandraScarlett wrote: »

Brassedoff, your name sums up precisely how I feel about your comments. You have succinctly stated what others have tried to explain to you, and I quote your words - I have a view, I am perfectly entitled to express it. If you don't like it, ignore it. We too are entitled to express our views, and if you don't like them ignore them - but you don't do you?

Instead you feel it necessary to make unnecessary comments, such as saying it's not my husband's car. I know that. And you know that I know it too! That is why I said "in our new car, courtesy of Motability". Why don't you take a leaf out of your own book and ignore comments you don't like, as you advise the rest of us to do?

Why do you feel it necessary to make comments about someone's spelling or grammar, when you are not an expert yourself? If you are going to be pedantic, I suggest you read through your own posts, prior to pressing the "Submit Reply" button.

You frequently omit the possessive apostrophe (perhaps it is because you are unsure of its correct use) and your spelling and punctuation leave much to be desired. But of course, as it's your post, it doesn't matter, because you feel it is perfectly within your right to insult others, and find fault in whatever they say.

I first came across your name when a 17 year old lad posted on another thread that he was deaf and he merely enquired if there was a reduction for carers at the London Dungeons. Your response was to be extremely rude, and then you added something like "if you're going to put your head above the parapet son, be prepared to be shot".

Did it give you some sort of thrill to post that? He asked a question, and if you didn't have anything helpful to say in reply, why did you feel the need to post what you did? Have you ever visited the London Dungeons? I have. Are you aware that it isn't easy for anybody to hear what the guides are saying, as there are so many other noises? As the name implies, it is very dark, so it would be impossible for a deaf person to lip read.

You know what Brassedoff? I love a forum, I enjoy a good debate, but I always know when someone feels they are losing the upper hand, and that's when they have to resort to rudeness, and make pompous comments like "Anger? A ridiculous and stupid statement".

Although, I suppose, I should feel blessed that you have made the first word of your reply "sorry".

xx

Touch!, sorry for any offence, none meant, none taken.

As for London Eye quote. It's an historical quote. Haig - 1917, France